Talk:Tripartite System of education in England, Wales and Northern Ireland

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Non-Compliance[edit]

The previous edit added a non-compliance tag, without an explanation on the talk page. As a consequence, this has been removed, but readers whould be aware that some aspects of this page are disputed in some unspecified manner.213.122.5.233 08:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tripartite system in linguistics[edit]

I just wanted to mention that there is the term tripartite system in linguistics as well. It refers to a grammatical system as opposed to accusative and ergative languages. i was looking for that, actually, and I was quite surprised to find this article instead.84.119.73.152 (talk) 18:08, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps a hatnote pointing to Tripartite language? Kanguole 18:16, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect :) 84.119.73.152 (talk) 20:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move?[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move to Tripartite system of education in England, Wales and Northern Ireland . Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:52, 13 March 2011 (UTC) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:52, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Tripartite System → Tripartite system —

  • In line with WP:CAPS. The term is not a proper noun and is uncapitalized in most of the top hits in GBooks & GScholar searches. Disambig page currently blocking move is unnecessary as there are only two entries and there is a hatnote for Education in Germany at the top of the current article, which is undoubtedly the primary topic as Education in Germany only mentions the term 'tripartite system' twice, half-way through the article. Qwfp (talk) 14:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Page Tripartite system now has 3 alternatives. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough; I admit I didn't read the rest of this Talk page properly before requesting the move. I've been trying to come up with an alternative unambiguous but reasonably short name for this article but I'm struggling. "Tripartite system of UK education" is inaccurate as it never included Scotland. Tripartite system of education in England, Wales and Northern Ireland seems a bit long, but in the absence of a better suggestion I'll change my rename request to this. Qwfp (talk) 11:29, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Butler Act and the "Trpiartite System"[edit]

There is a thread about the common misconception that the Butler Act introduced the "Tripartite System" at Talk:History of education in England#Butler Act and "tripartite system" - common delusion. The thread includes links to external resources which may be useful in improving this article. DuncanHill (talk) 13:50, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Transfer between schools[edit]

I don't see any mention in the present article of transfer of pupils between schools, and in particular from SM to grammar schools. I attended a grammar school in the 1960s, and I recall that there were significant numbers of pupils transferring in. I don't suppose my school was unique. As I recall, transfers occurred either during or at the end of the first year, presumably because the pupils concerned turned out to be more 'academic' than expected from their 11-plus results, or later around 16, at the start of A-level studies. Since most SM schools had no A-level provision, transfer to a grammar school was a logical step, though in some areas an FE College might be an alternative option. I was hoping to find some statistics on the subject, but so far I have been disappointed. Another complication is that some pupils who 'failed' their 11-plus might be sent to private schools for education up to O-level, if their parents could afford it, then on to a grammar school for A-levels. Some of the transfers that I remember may have been of this kind. We didn't interrogate the new arrivals on where they had come from. I guess that the number of transfers was very marginal as a proportion of SM pupils, but more significant for the grammars, as the arithmetic would suggest. At my school the 'incomers' at age 16, whether from SM or private schools, accounted for at least 10 percent of the A-level classes. I mention the subject partly because the present article gives the impression that the system was more rigid than it probably was in practice, and partly in the hope that someone knows of some actual statistics.2A00:23C8:7906:1301:F0C2:D69A:DE42:EECA (talk) 21:23, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think there was considerable variation in levels of transfer, some LEAs and some schools being far more open to it than others. In part this would have been affected by the difference in numbers of the different types of school in the different LEAs. I think I'm right in recalling that some LEAs had grammar spaces for about 50% of pupils, others for less than 30%. It's an interesting area of study, but I'm not aware of any published reliable sources. DuncanHill (talk) 22:58, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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