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repetitive

Who wrote this article? Just wondering how many times it is going to tell me that she did a Ted Nugent show in 2003. I've only read the first 2 sections so far and both mentioned it. Where's the copy-editor or proofreader? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.217.106.54 (talk) 07:41, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, this article needs help. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

lost info

"Throughout 2008, Tequila confirmed that she had maintained friendships with Courtenay Semel,[45] Billy Corgan,[46] and Meghan McCain.[47]"

This sentence is just thrown in there. Who are the three people mentioned (in reference to Tila's relations), why is it important that we know she maintained a friendship with them, and what happened that may have been the cause of dissolving the friendships in the first place? Neither the paragraph immediately before nor the paragraph immediately after this sentence mentions anything that has to do with these people, yet this bit of info is tossed in the middle of nowhere. So, is it a gimmick to peak the reader's interest and force the reader to research those people and whatever situation occurred??? I don't understand... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.217.106.54 (talk) 08:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Clean up

This article is filled with what reads as self-promotion, and "post anything to keep me in the news". For example, do we seriously need to list all her friends and when she is having a garage sale? Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree. This article needs substantial paring, back to what might reasonably be considered encyclopedic. I'll take a few stabs at it and encourage others to do likewise. JohnInDC (talk) 00:04, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I removed quite a bit of fluff - some of it was straight-up copyediting, but the majority was removing hyperbole, puffery, quasi-marketing or promotional material (Tila's plans for this, her new deal to do that sometime in the future) and, well, just *stuff* that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article. I only took out the low-hanging fruit though so please, someone else pick up where I left off - JohnInDC (talk) 02:45, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Agreed with others. Need to remove ", along with Jeffree Star." from the first paragraph. That person has nothing to do with her and it was likely added as a self promotion by that person because his name happened to be mentioned in an article with hers.

Pending changes

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Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC).

singaporean-born

Try SINgapore born, since Nguyen was born to refugee parents. Singaporean-born suggests Nguyen was born a Singaporean ie a citizen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.25.140 (talk) 18:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

She did a lesbian threesome porn

Put it in the article. 173.57.170.173 (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to put it up, make sure you make proper edits and sources. Quick google search came up with a title,( Tila Tequila Uncorked) publisher, (Vivid Entertainment) cast, (Tila Tequila, Charlie Laine and Kristina Rose) Website (NSFW) and release date, 2/14/11. If you have any more information, go on and add it. Just from the search, however, it seems there is controversy surrounding the tape; leaks, and whatnot. and has taken minimal legal action. However, I too agree it should be added. 71.160.221.11 (talk) 18:18, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Imdb mentions this title here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1889455/ , but it's hard to find info about it. --damiens.rf 13:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

It looks as though someone has deleted the reference to her sex tape from her page on more than one occasion (in page history). I agree this is verifiable information and it should be in the article, and perhaps locked from user edits afterward. I've seen the video, it's definitely her, that's indisputable. Anybody know exactly what year it was made?Odie1344 (talk) 14:50, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Please fix grammar

The article is locked so I can't fix this myself, but under personal life it should read "a brain aneurysm" not "an brain aneurysm". 68.146.70.177 (talk) 11:23, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

social media

This article barely says anything about why there's even a Tila Tequila article. She is know due to social networking sites. She was initial on Friendster then kicked off due to having too many friends. Tom Anderson invited her to myspace and that's where she gained her popularity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.229.241.171 (talk) 05:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Sources that confirm the above: [1][2] Siawase (talk) 20:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, her MySpace popularity was once noted on here, why was it taken out? That's where her career took off.StrangeApparition2011 (talk) 02:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Not particularly, she was a model long before she joined MySpace. She then happened to get really big on MySpace but she did do some photography and singing work before she joined. The lead states, "most popular artist on MySpace". I think the reason why they took out the friends thing is because, well, it's kind of pointless even if that's what she's known for. It's not a real occupation. Spelling Style (talk) 17:56, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

French Vietnamese?

Are her parents ethnically French that emmigrated to Vietnam? Is she half French, a quarter French, or 1/1,000,000th French.... Is this a fact or is this something that she made up in her biograpy? Wxyz08 (talk) 11:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I also agree that her being "French-Vietnamese" is made up. It has never been verified by any credible sources. It was even stated on her Myspace page that she is "Asian"; it has been modified now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wetac0s (talk • contribs)

if she had french parents, her noe would with some statistical likelyhood be a bit bigger (i'm european and i see a lot of french people on tv). her face looks neither any bit like the few vietnamese people i saw (again on tv, both from the vietnam war, and more recently as offspring of refugees). but she does look strikingly like a lot of people from cambodia (the way her face bends a bit inwards), so maybe she's from there. until she publishes video footage of the rest of her family, we can't tell whether she is actually genetically related to them at all, or maybe was picked up from the roadside (given the refugee circumstances).

but she's at least one of the nicest people i've seen on tv or the net over the past decades. --46.115.63.113 (talk) 17:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

She is definitely not french. she is way to short and looks ethnically from the mekong delta area. the french did control indochina (vietnam/cambodia/laos) for a very long time but they did not "mix" with the native population due to racism. another reason why she might be saying this is that the vietnamese culture likes to show off their uniqueness. by claiming to be french she would stick out from the crowd. if there is a possibility that she is french, you have to take a look at the rest of her family. are they short like her? asian eyes? buddhist or catholic? speak french? ...etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.19.204 (talk) 04:50, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Her biography currently cites that she is a quarter French through her mother. I actually made an account to ask her about this on her official website back in 2007. She confirmed, "Yeah, my mom has some French in her." Supposedly, one of her mom's parents is 100% French although the kids and grandkids clearly do not speak French (her mother is half French, though). MySpace only allows people to choose one race to identify with, so it's not a surprise that she chose Asian. BTW, the above poster is incorrect, plenty of Vietnamese and Cambodians still married French people due to immigration issues (they decided to move away), or working alongside each other during the war. Spelling Style (talk) 23:26, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Masterminds movie with Tila

Update her flim thing and add about the DVD release of Masterminds (2013 Flim) on May 28th, 2013. This should be included — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tilaarmy (talk • contribs) 04:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I've moved it to Masterminds (2013 film).—Kww(talk) 05:02, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Super powers and war on the Illuminati

Lots of heat, no light. Personal attacks on article subject violate BLP and don't have any place here anyway. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 03:41, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

According to this Buzzfeed article Ms. Nguyen has declared war on the Illuminati (who were wiped out in 1785), and will save us from the alien-hybrids living in the "Moon" (which is apparently fake) and in hollow-earth using her "super human abilities." She also claims to have died "7 times." Does this mean that WP:BLP no longer applies? I mean, it's not applied to Enoch, Elijah, Jesus, or Muhammad al-Mahdi. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:40, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

I am surprised there is no mention of this in the article. For the past three years the vast majority of her time has been spent getting into fights on the internet over her alleged claims that everything she forgets her password to is 'hacked' by the 'others' along with generic batshit insanity. Her two 'official' accounts on Twitter are suspended for talking sheer nonsense and 'hate speech' specifically anti-semetic and holocaust denial nonsense mostly.

The more you read or watch of her recently the more it's clear that she has some deep seated mental health issues. These are all she is known for these days now she has given up making porn and prostitution. I know she gave TV and music and all that usual entertainment crap a crack but she claims that the 'reptillian alien blood line that controls the media' has 'practically ruined her life' yet seems to forget if it weren't for the media she wouldn't exist or would still be a trailer park hooker.

It's definitely worth mentioning, and I'm surprised no one has. I am not the best person to make these additions as I spend a lot of my spare time tracking down and publicly shaming conspiretards, fretards, quacks, and woo peddlers who prey on the stupidity of others. Thus I question whether I would be able to remain neutral. Well, I know I could, and would, I would just fucking hate myself and lose sleep at night for not somehow including the term 'conspiretard' into the article.

There is a LOT of primary and secondary source material dealing with clinical diagnoses of Tila's mental snap as rapid onset paranoid schizophrenia / schizotypal disorder if someone wants to source and include that also as a possible apologetica as to why she's suddenly gone from a crack smoking hooker into a meth smoking reptillian alien fearing conspiracy psychopath.

Anyway, it would be nice to see this article up to date with her current life obsessions. As it stands this article is NPOV for being so clinically written to not portray any of the negative elements of her history or life (past or present) to the point that I am honestly wondering whether it is written by a PR firm. Needs less POV please folks! BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 13:21, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Her latest Twitter suspension was due to her posting the name, address, and private details of a hater of hers fed to her by a Tila Troll. Apparently there are a lot of people out there who actively troll her pretending they're illuminati agents, etc, just because she goes screaming to the media about every conspiracy she thinks she uncovers. Hilarity ensues. Worth inclusion as to why almost all her social media links are dead; whilst she actively claims on her YouTube channel the illuminati shut them down to silence her, it appears all are TOS violations by Ms Paranoid Schizophrenic herself.[3] BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 13:27, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

She is not a SINGAPOREAN!

Every articles about Tila cite that she is Singaporean. Note: she is born in Singapore as her parents seek REFUGE in Singapore, therefore she is a REFUGEE in Singapore, NOT Singaporean. We wouldn't want to associate ourselves with yellow trash like her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.14.178.183 (talk) 12:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I am not familiar with the specifics of Singaporean nationality law. However, I think that your hostile and racist statement has delegitimatized your position. Please refrain from abusive language in the future. Lothar76 (talk) 22:04, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

No, he's right. The good people of Singapore have every right & reason to wish not to be falsely associated with this person. Singapore has extremely strict immigration laws, so you can rest assured she's not a citizen of Singapore (which ought to be the assumption anyway, barring a reliable source claiming she was). KevinOKeeffe (talk) 22:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

But "We wouldn't want to associate ourselves with yellow trash like her." does sound a bit uncalled for WhisperToMe (talk) 04:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

She's definitely not Singaporean. Singapore has no history of sexy beautiful women and it's also known as the gay capital of ASEAN. It's famous for its feminine males and especially flamboyant private gay parties. Very few of the attractive females in the city-state are locals and few of Chinese-ancestry. It's the expats and in Tia Taquila's case people passing through. It is correct that Tia should be listed as being born there as a refugee. Most Asian nations do not give a child born in their nations who is not a child of a citizen citizenship. It's probably a good thing in Tia's case, but for Singapore's reputation for the arts it's a loss. Singapore remains at the bottom of the list of the Most Interesting Destinations in Asia for the Arts according to The Traveler's Guide to East Asia 2013 Edition. 203.131.210.82 (talk) 01:35, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Public defence of Nazism and Adolf Hitler

Tequila has made numerous public comments defending Adolf Hitler and Nazim on Facebook and Youtube. Her comments have been talked about in Business Insider today.

"Once upon a time in a land far away there was a special and sweet kid who had a dream to become a painter. He was a brilliant artist and was ahead of his time. He had hopes, and dreams just like we all do.

"Unfortunately, the art schools did not feel the same as he and they rejected him. Fast forward a few years later he was roughed up and bullied on top of that by the same people he once loved. His Name was Hitler." oo "Here is a man who was not a coward, stood up for his country in a DESPERATE TIME OF NEED (unlike all of our cowardly leaders), and yet not only did he try his best to help his country and people get out of what was a time of depression, economic collapse, high unemployment, amongst many other things… he lost the war AND was painted out to be a monster after his death. This is what breaks my heart." LiamFly (talk) 22:25, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Reliable sources report that this poor woman suffers from several mental illnesses, and also that she had a brain aneurysm last year, which can physically affect brain function. We should not repeat her bizarre ravings on this encyclopedia, but as coverage continues, should describe her irrational behavior in a neutral, compassionate way. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not very familiar with Wikipedia editing or the etiquette in writing on pages, but I also think that Tila is suffering from schizophrenia. I'm not sure if she has been properly diagnosed though, as it seems from her writing and behavior that she is unmedicated. Roastporkbun (talk) 21:11, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

So is anonymoustruthblog.com really her site? And is facebook.com/IamMissTila really her, or a parody account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.203.66.230 (talk) 04:29, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I do not know, and it is not our job here to verify the authenticity of deranged ravings. Leave that to investigative reporters writing for reliable publications with professional editorial control and fact checkers on staff. Certainly, this woman's behavior lends itself to cruel parodies. All the more reason to keep this content out of this biography until reliable sources (not gossip sources) cover it in depth. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:56, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

We have a responsibility to update the article as quickly as possible. I myself came to the article after hearing the news about her, expecting to find a nuanced reflection of reliable sources, and instead found an essentially out-of-date article. Doing a quick search, I see New York Daily News, Sydney Morning Herald, Newsday, and Huffington Post among others that editors may draw from, assuming these are agreed to be reliable. May I offer caution: While I certainly agree with those of us who say we are not here to echo gossip, Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED and we do not whitewash truth. This is only a word of caution. Prhartcom (talk) 22:25, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

We could use this april 2013 article by Digital trends to document the evolution of her career and this Hollywood Reporter article seems ok as a source for her pro-Hitler rant. What do you think ? Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 07:26, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Any proposed language must make clear that she has admitted having mental illnesses, and also suffered a brain aneurysm last year, which can have profound physical effects on brain function. This article should not sensationalize her bizarre statements, and should be cited to the highest quality reliable sources. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:00, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

The digital trends article doesn't mention the brain aneurysm, it seems (I should reread it) but it mentions that, when she appeared on Howard Stern's show, she was " talking about how she is bipolar, has multiple personalities named Jane and Caroline, and has tried every drug in the book". This article on the Huffington Post mentions the aneurysm (including possible brain damage), the drug use, and the mental illnesses. Are those sources good enough ? Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 08:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

The HuffPo piece is just a repost from Radar Online, an online outlet affiliated with the National Enquirer, so isn't a reliable source. The other source is not really current. What we need is a truly reliable and recent source discussing the lizard people and Hitler statements, and the additions need to be written conservatively and not sensationalistically. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:15, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

I have been looking for decent sources, and so far, I am seeing moderately reliable sources saying little more than "gosh, look what this strange woman is saying now" and unreliable sensationalistic gossip sources going to town with the story. There is no rush to update the biography. When a good, reliable source emerges that discusses her recent behavior in the context of her mental and physical brain problems, that will be the time for an update. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:22, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

The Hollywood Reporter article seems like a pretty reliable source to me. It actually serves to update the Digital trends article. Have you read the latter article ? Since it's from april 2013 it does not include the "I love Hitler" part, but otherwise it covers her descent into "conspiracy theory" realm in a rather precise way. These two sources should be enough to update the page in a factual, neutral manner, hoping that we later get further in-depth coverage of her mental/professional breakdown. If we need more sources, are New York Daily News, Metro, Tablet Magazine and Jewish Journal reliable enough ? Right now, I see no reason not to update the article. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 08:16, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

She has now made available a talking head video in which she discusses her views on Nazis, the Illuminati, and confirms that the "anonymous truth" is her own website. So there really isn't any need to hold back on a change to the Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.255.102.121 (talk) 19:01, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2013

Wmcb91 (talk) 05:45, 25 December 2013 (UTC) I think if the recent news of her being a nazi-supporting holocaust denier are true (which there are multiple sources of evidence for), this needs to be mentioned on her page. It is significant enough to merit mention on a page of someone who may have some admirers.

Sources: http://www.businessinsider.com/tila-tequila-is-a-nazi-2013-12i http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/tila-tequila-wears-nazi-uniform-praises-hitler-shocking-rant-article-1.1543467

Please read the template directly above carefully and the previous discussion. You need to provide specific language that complies with WP:BLP and the concerns raised above. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:05, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Cullen, this has gone on long enough. BLP allows editors to update this article with truth that is verifiable by multiple reliable sources. As I warned earlier, Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED. Now, you are probably the best one to make these updates to the article. The rest of us have no doubt you, more than anyone else, will apply these recent facts to the article in a balanced and proper way. I would suggest, for example, that the Personal Life section be expanded to include something like, "In November 2013, Nguyen published pro-Adolf Hitler statements. [quote here] She also made anti-semitic statements [quote here] Huffington Post. In December 2013 she released a hard-core sex tape through Vivid Entertainment New York Daily News" Please consider it. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 18:07, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

There is no rush to include the information. The sources you propose are poor in many ways and certainly not up to WP:BLP standards. Blogs with no evidence of professional editing don't cut it. A tabloid reporting that "Somebody said that somebody else said she is releasing a sex tape" is NOT sufficient, and any addition about her bizarre statements must also mention her psychiatric and neurological problems. Try again, please. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:40, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Editing Wikipedia is more than being an officious obstructionist. The best editors create. As I suggested, you are the obvious choice to write the needed improvement as you have a grasp of the balance required—unless of course you feel you don't have the capability. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 18:58, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

"Officious obstructionist", Prhartcom? Please visit my userpage to see the list of articles I've written and expanded, and please consider withdrawing that remark. My actions here are 100% in compliance with WP:BLP policy and if you disagree, please bring up the issue at WP:BLPN, the appropriate noticeboard. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:24, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

• Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. There seems to be no consensus here. Disabling the template until one has been reached.. Thank you. Technical 13 (talk) 04:54, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

"Suffering"

The phrase "who had long suffered from Type I Diabetes" is prejudicial against people with type 1 diabetes. We don't "suffer" - we simply live. Please remove the phrase 'long suffered from' from this sentence (2nd para, in Personal Life section). I'm new, so apologise if I've made any errors here. 122.150.186.233 (talk) 11:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Refered to as Tequila/ Nguyen in different sections

I noticed that in some sections (such as "Personal live") she is referred to by her alias ("Tequila"), however in other sections (such as "public image") she is refereed to by her real name ("Nguyen"). In the section controversy both forms are used.

I don't know whether there are any guidelines about this on Wikipedia (and hence will not make any changes on the article), but I think that's a bit confusing.

Leafy239 (talk) 18:41, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Supposed porn career

There are categories in the article that refer to her as a "pornographic actress". However, the article makes no mention of her acting in porn films. I deleted the categories and was reverted, with a reference to something on IMDB. However, IMDB is a user generated site and isn't a WP:RS. It's not WP:Verifiable. Some reliable sources need to be found and a paragraph about this film, if it really is her in it, needs to be added to the article before we start tossing in categories willy nilly. Furthermore, I'm not sure, even if she WAS in this supposed film, if appearing in a single film merits these categories. It puts her in the same category as, say, Jenna Jameson, which is totally undiscerning. Kindzmarauli (talk) 21:34, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Did you even Google it? She won an AVN award for her second one (and was nominated for the same award for the first). -- Irn (talk) 01:03, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Having a sex tape does not make her a pornographic actress, any more than having a sex tape made Kim Kardashian a pornographic actress. Both have sex tapes and neither are pornographic actresses. I support Kindzmarauli's revert, per WP:BLP. Flyer22 (talk) 01:12, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

What are your BLP concerns? The use of the word "sextape" might be a bit misleading: those were produced and distributed by Vivid Entertainment, one of the biggest names in porn. They can't do that without her consent. She won and accepted an award for one of them. -- Irn (talk) 01:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

My WP:BLP concerns are that no one should be categorizing a person as a porn actor, or similar, unless that is specifically supported by one or more WP:Reliable sources and/or the person clearly identifies as a porn actor in one or more WP:Reliable sources. Farrah Abraham also had a professionally produced "sex tape" made, but she does not consider herself a porn actress. Tequila accepting whatever porn award doesn't mean she considers herself a porn actress. Flyer22 (talk) 01:47, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I think we have reliable sources characterizing her as such, but given the totality of her life, I'm not sure that appearing in two pornographic videos warrants a category, especially considering how many categories this page already has. (I also disagree about the applicability of BLP, but that doesn't matter.) -- Irn (talk) 02:03, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Since WP:BLP is a very important policy, your feelings on where and how it applies does matter. In what way do you think it doesn't apply here? Flyer22 (talk) 02:09, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

If your "and/or" is understood as an "or", then only one of those two conditions is necessary. And if, as I said, we do have reliable sources for her being a pornographic actor (even though I asserted that last time, I'm doubting it now because I think a certain level of professionalism might be necessary to be considered a pornographic actors, and I'm not sure how professional her videos were), then that should be sufficient, right? Which would mean that her self-identification should be irrelevant. If she were to try to distance herself from either the videos or her pornographic acting career - that is, not just a lack of self-identification, but an active dis-identification - then I think it would probably be applicable. I guess, in general, I don't see anything contentious, controversial, defamatory, or anything else within BLP that would be particularly applicable; can you explain what, exactly, in BLP you think does apply? (Also, both this page and Farrah Abrahams are still in categories referring to the subjects as "pornographic actors", in case you want to change those.) -- Irn (talk) 02:49, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I mentioned self-identification because a WP:Reliable source stating something does not make it true or mean that we should follow what that source states, especially if the person, as in Abraham's case, clearly does not consider themselves a porn actor. If self-identification never mattered (and I'm not stating you are saying that), we would not have the WP:BLPCAT policy. In fact, because of this case and the Abraham case, I might propose something at the WP:BLP talk page about not adding people to a pornographic actor category unless it is explicitly clear that the person is a pornographic actor. I've seen enough discussions at the WP:BLP policy talk page, and various biography talk pages, to know that self-identification absolutely matters (it matters often enough anyway). Categorizing Tila Tequila as a pornographic actor without it being supported by a WP:Reliable source in the article is absolutely a contentious matter and a WP:BLP matter; I fail to see how the WP:BLP is not clear about that. I will now remove the remainder of the pornographic actor categories in the Tila Tequila article, and the ones in the Farrah Abraham article. Flyer22 (talk) 03:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, I couldn't have said any of this better myself. Kindzmarauli (talk) 15:14, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

"A pornographic actor or actress is a person who performs sex acts in film that is usually characterized as a pornographic film." "A film, also called a movie, motion picture or photoplay, is a series of still images which, when shown on a screen, creates the illusion of moving images due to the phi phenomenon." → Let's subsume that: I. She is a person. II. She performs sex acts. III. A video tape is a film. Namely Tila Tequila Uncorked and Tila Tequila Backdoored and Squirting. There is no doubt that these films are only pornographic. Substantially these films are published to a broad audience and commercially distributed by Vivid Entertainment. In fact it does not matter at all whether these films are successful, whether she considers herself a porn star, or just a porn actress, or anyone else does or whether she does that professionally, regularly, for money or her own pleasure. She is a porn actress by definition for every porn film she contributed to as the main pornographic subject as well as Farrah Abraham or comparable persons are. There are no reasonable arguments against the honest publication on Wikipedia, a rational and emotionless encyclopedia for the community who wants to face the truth and gain knowledge. But is not for people who want to protect adult persons from the consequences of their own decisions by the censorship of facts and sources that prove them. Aktioner (talk) 23:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2015

Change Filmography section to this extended list. By the way this was clear, maybe not for apes but for anyone that is able to type wikipedia in his URL bar so it's superfluous and only delaying the process. Aktioner (talk) 22:09, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Filmography

• Surviving Nugent (2003)
• THS Investigates: Online Nightmares (2006)
• I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry (2007)
• Tila Tequila’s New Year’s Eve Masquerade 2008 (2008)
• MTV Spring Break: Tila Tequila’s Spring Break Fantasy Couple (2008)
• $#*! My Dad Says (Episode "Ed Goes to Court", as "Ting-Ting" (2011)
• Icon News (Season 1, Episode 14: "A Rising Icon" (2011)
• Tila Tequila Uncorked (2011)
• Entertainment Tonight (2012)
• Masterminds (2013)
• Tila Tequila Backdoored and Squirting (2014)
• 24/7 (2016)

Aktioner (talk) 14:06, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

References

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 09:37, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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New antisemite incident to add to "Controversy"

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On Jun 20, 2016, Tequila posted on Twitter a message accusing Sarah Silverman and the Jews of killing Jesus before saying the comedian was next on a “celebrity sacrifice” list. The message used the "echo" symbol which is used by white supremacists and anti-Semites to identify Jews online.

Reference: http://www.jta.org/2016/06/22/news-opinion/united-states/sarah-silverman-target-of-anti-semitic-rant-by-ex-reality-tv-star-tila-tequila Ronenbar256 (talk) 18:04, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

2016-11-20: Please add https://twitter.com/AngelTilaLove/status/799809348755161088 as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.39.164.85 (talk) 23:47, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

can some one please also point out that she spelled "Sieg" wrong lmao --71.178.8.66 (talk) 22:33, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

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2012 suicide attempt, and brain damage...

I am not a follower of Ms Tequila, but I remember speculation that the attempt, and following coma, left her with brain damage.

I see here that she voiced some stupid racist comments, and some plain old garden-variety stupid comments. Do RS speculate that the stupid comments are triggered by brain damage? If so I think that should be included in the article. Geo Swan (talk) 22:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Personal life cuts

Tenebrae and TonyBallioni, given what was done in this case, are either of you willing to sort out the recently cut Tila Tequila material since, in Hillbillyholiday's opinion, it's not worth sorting out? For example, I see material removed about Tequila having a daughter. Anything else that should be retained, per WP:Preserve? Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:54, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Just because one editor can't be bothered to "sort out" something doesn't mean he can unilaterally remove a huge, cited biographical section. If that editor doesn't want to "sort it out," no one requires him to. Others may choose to do so. But unless there are specific uncited personal-life claims, then we do not summarily erase entire sections. I have asked in my edit summary reverting that WP:BOLD edit that per WP:BRD, this editor is invited to discuss the issue on this talk page and try to reach consensus with other editors. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:01, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Tenebrae, at WP:ANI, this is one of the issues I noted in Hillbillyholiday's editing. But, in the case of this article, he did remove some material that should be removed. Some of the sources aren't really BLP-compliant. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I agree, and I said so in my post above (though worded inelegantly, I admit). If there are uncited or poorly cited personal-life claims, or an WP:UNDUE level of overdetail, by all means, let's remove them . But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

That said, I've been Wiki'ing for a bit today and I'm about burnt out for the night. I presume we can work on this tomorrow?--Tenebrae (talk) 00:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Sure. We all need a break. And I took a brief break before logging back on and seeing the deletions at this article. I just wanted more eyes on the matter to see if we should keep anything that was removed. Well, other than the daughter aspect. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:22, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll look at it tomorrow. I need to finish the Bynes article as well (restoring a bit more). I actually don't mind BOLD blanking then restoring from history: it just needs to be clear that the intent is to rebuild a section in line with BLP principles and not simply keep it removed. I'm on mobile, so haven't seen the specifics here, but I'll definitely provide thoughts later. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I can help with sourcing if need be. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:31, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Flyer22 Reborn: I've made some cuts. The largest was the first paragraph, those quotes were beyond excessive in my mind and made for bad style in addition getting too close to comfort for me in terms on amount of quotes. Also trimmed much of the material re: the fiancée's death: the article is about Tequila, not the fiancée, so summary style is appropriate here rather than all the details. Finally I removed the quote after her rehab stint: concision makes for good writing, and Wikipedia's default style is prose is summary style. I didn't think the quote added much so removed it. There still might be BLP issues in the remaining text, I didn't go that in-depth in my review, but can look more later. As always with any of my edits, I'm more than open to reversion and discussion. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:41, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

TonyBallioni, your cuts look fine to me. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2016

Tila Tequila won the AVN Award for Best Celebrity Sex Tape in 2015. This is a substantial award that should be added to the list of awards she has received. 45.48.231.151 (talk) 19:18, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 20:05, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

What a load of crap Wiki has turned into. I wouldn't doubt PR firms have hired hands here that keep their customers bio's clean just as different people/groups have been caught previously pushing agendas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.104.160.57 (talk) 17:38, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

IP editor, please familiarize yourself with our policy on biographies of living people. What you call "a load of crap" are the very policies that keep Wikipedia the number one reference work in the world, by far. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:43, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

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Removal of Casey Johnson from partner(s) section. Johnson is not dead an is not sourced as having been her partner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.166.195 (talk) 01:37, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Recent additions

Mcelite, please self-revert these edits until there is consensus for inclusion. They are sourced to her own YouTube channel. Wikipedia is a tertiary source. We cover what reliable secondary sources have to say about our subjects. WP:BLPPRIMARY makes it clear that the main usage of primary sources in BLPs is to support coverage in secondary sources. Until there is coverage in secondary sourcing about this, we don't report it. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:49, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I included this because it is coming directly from her. The current information was incorrect and I believe this has a heavier impact because this coming directly from her and not an interviewer. In my opinion I believe this will improve the article. The statements should stay because they are coming directly from her and revealing how she was pressured into playing a role for a specific show.Mcelite (talk) 21:55, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Her religous affiliation isn't particularly relevant unless it is covered by secondary sourcing, so it should be removed. I can understand maybe having one sentence about no longer identifying as LGBT cited to this, as presenting her as LGBT when she no longer identifies as it also presents BLP issues, but certainly not an entire paragraph that is sourced to YouTube. Anything she said about the producers should not be included per WP:BLPSELFPUB. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:03, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

TonyBallioni I apologize for responding late I've been busy. I'll agree for one sentence referring to her no longer identifying as LGBT. I do disagree about not including her changing her religious affiliation b/c it shows a significant change in her life.Mcelite (talk) 17:08, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

That is making a value judgement about the importance of her religious identification that secondary sources have not made. We normally don't include religion unless it is covered by secondary sources for this reason. It is a weighting problem. The distinction with the sexuality issue is that if we continue to not say anything, it will portray her as a sexuality that she is not (which is in itself a BLP issue). Not mentioning her religion is not a BLP issue in itself. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:10, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Okay then I'll agree with just mentioning her true self identification sexually I honestly won't have time anytime soon to search and see if she has done any recent interview on her change religiously.Mcelite (talk) 17:42, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Neo-Nazi?

She openly supports white supremacy hate groups, hates Jews and Muslims, and views the Nazis positively. She should be given the American Neo-Nazi category. 2001:8003:A720:B300:DD1:90B:5491:4DFB (talk) 00:40, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

The Vietnamese (and also, incidentally, the Chinese) have long held Adolf Hitler in open admiration. Consider that in both aforementioned cultures, history is typically taught selectively, with issues such as civil rights infringements stripped away, so as to concentrate on the perceived virtues of stridently authoritarian régimes. This is, of course, reflective of bias in support of governments closely mirroring their own.Ms Tequila is only speaking in cultural sympathy with her origins; disgusting as those sympathies are. https://archive.jta.org/1965/08/09/archive/vietnamese-government-explains-premiers-admiration-for-hitler Nuttyskin (talk) 20:39, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

This isn't really much an argument for her not being a Neo-Nazi when she openly associates with white supremacists, has posted imagery of herself in Nazi regalia, admires Hitler, used the Roman salute, and joined Gab, a far-right social networking site. If not a Neo-Nazi specifically, she's clearly some kind of a fascist. (Docktuh (talk) 23:01, 13 September 2018 (UTC));

So we have the proof she's definitely a neo-Nazi. But she's also a fraud in that she pretended to be bisexual, but recanted and has become homophobic, so several LGBT categories should be removed as well. 2001:8003:AC56:4900:D559:5987:2285:F722 (talk) 02:57, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2019

Please add that Tila now identifies as a Born Again Christian and posts on Youtube under the name Tornado Thein. She posts frequent videos about the Bile and her journey into Christianity. In November 2018 she live streamed a video entitled "MY POWERFUL TESTIMONY! WHY I LEFT HOLLYWOOD AND TURNED TO JESUS!" the video has since reached 62k views. DollyDaydream123 (talk) 14:56, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 02:23, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Casey Johnson article link?

Under the "Personal Life" section, the part about Casey Johnson instead links to the page for her father, Woody Johnson. Should this be removed? CeilingMessenger (talk) 06:53, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Neo-Nazi

I think recent reverts have confused writing what a source says with using its exact words. It is not necessary that a word appear in a source to be used in an article - there may equally well not be a source that says Tequila is a quote social media personality unquote, but we can write that because sources say equivalent things; and since sources say that she expresses admiration of Hitler and Jewish genocide, sources do in fact say she is a neo-Nazi, whether or not they use that precise expression.

Note that she is in the category "American neo-Nazis" and is so as a result of a discussion above. If the page says so in the categories, it can say so in the lead. Pinkbeast (talk) 06:21, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Although not, one would imagine, as the term is typically framed by others in that category.

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Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2020

Remove all the lgbt categories from her page. As seen in her personal page, she admitted she was pretending to be LGBT 194.247.60.2 (talk) 06:24, 20 February 2020 (UTC) 194.247.60.2 (talk) 06:24, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:27, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Father of second child

Who is the father her second child? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 19:26, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

To add to article

To add to this article: mention of the custody battle over her first child. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 19:29, 20 September 2020 (UTC)