This article is within the scope of WikiProject Denmark, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Denmark on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DenmarkWikipedia:WikiProject DenmarkTemplate:WikiProject DenmarkDenmark articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Christianity, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Christianity on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChristianityWikipedia:WikiProject ChristianityTemplate:WikiProject ChristianityChristianity articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Religion, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles on Religion-related subjects. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details.ReligionWikipedia:WikiProject ReligionTemplate:WikiProject ReligionReligion articles
A fact from Tidehverv appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 May 2012 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the Danish theological movement Tidehverv, represented in parliament from 2001 to 2011, published combined pamphlets by Martin Luther under the title "Against the Turk and the Jew" in 1999?
Haugen writes: "Another indication of Tidehverv’s early influence is a statement quoted in Nationaltidende (February 10, 1952) from then Minister of Church Affairs, Carl Hermansen, who observed that “the original grundtvigian and the original inner mission practically do not exist any more. Denmark of today is tidehvervsk” (Bramming 1993, 84), meaning that the whole country was influenced by the “New Era” magazine."
Haugen also uses the expression "parish priest" to translate "sognepræst".·maunus · snunɐɯ· 05:28, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Its pretty clearly a hyperbolic statement and it should not be taking out of context, and "original" is a key word here (both movements developed, but both remained in possession of important institutions, folk high schools, mission houses, seminaries etc. that gave them a lot more outreach than an academic "club" like Tidehverv). The new wording is better than the old one, but its still not sensible to use that quote in the article as its misleading to someone without background knowledge of the subject.--Batmacumba (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Priest is usually used for Catholic clergy in English, whereas you use minister, vicar etc. for Protestant clergy, there is no particular reason to translate "sognepræst" directly rather than just call them a pastor as pastors usually lead a congregation.--Batmacumba (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are different kinds of clergymen in the Danish church, depending on the kind of congregation they lead. Parish priest is therefore more informative than "pastor". I don't think it is misleading to stress the importance of the Tidehverv movement in Danish theology. It is however misleading to call it an "academic club" - it was a movement with a wide participation. Today, it is sort of a club for conservative theologians, but that was not the case originally.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 08:13, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
