Talk:Thomas Roderick Dew

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Historical Significance[edit]

I've discovered a useful and illuminating tidbit of information about Thomas Dew, and I would like to know if it would be appropriate for this page.

In the 1969 Spaghetti Western,'Sabata" (Alberto Grimaldi producer, Lee van Clef lead) there is a prominent placing of the Thomas Dew as an author. I took a screenshot of it. The shot begins with a lingering full screen image of a red book cover with the embossed words "Inequality is Basis of Society" and below that "Thomas Dew". The camera pans back to show the villain reading the book. Then one of his flunkies comes in and he quotes from the book to him, something like 'The responsibility of command is to use lesser men'.

Would this be categorized as trivia? Or perhaps too obscure?

I notice the book title, "Inequality is the Basis of Society", which is a marvelously clear phrase, is not listed among his works. It also characterises Dew in history, or represents Grimaldi's interpretation of Dew's significance. Also, the scene provides a candidate notable quotation in popular culture. The film was what led me to this page, and it seems to have shed some light on what Political Economy was, and is.

I'll check here later and see if there are any opinions about how or if to add this information. ~ripe.program 11:49, 9 January 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ripe.program (talk • contribs)

I've put this in but it would be very helpful if you could find something written about the movie that mentions this. deisenbe (talk) 12:01, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

> Sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabata_(film) see also https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064916/ .

The Wikipedia Film page is just plot and cast

The Wikipedia Director page is just filmography. ~ripe.program 06:01, 11 January 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ripe.program (talk • contribs)

Need for a source[edit]

"A non-existant book by Dew, Inequality Is the Basis of Society, appears in the spaghetti western Sabata (1969), in which the book is read by a villain. A character reads a quotation from it: 'The responsibility of command is to use lesser men.'"

The Imdb doesn't say this, and one WP article cannot be source for another. deisenbe (talk) 12:48, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

>Can a film not be significant in itself? I am just describing the scene I watched. So I would cite the film for the above statement. Something like: [United Artists, "Sabata" (1969), . Gianfranco Parolini, Alberto Grimaldi, Lee van Clef, et al. 0:36.12-0:36.28] in appropriate style.

It should be possible to cite a specific copy or version of the film, if necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ripe.program (talk • contribs) 15:49, 13 January 2022 (UTC) ~ripe.program 15:53, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

more work needed[edit]

This article obviously needed cleanup, for it mentioned a book by a supposed descendant when the man died on his honeymoon and had no apparent children. Plus, I went to an LDS geneology center a few days ago, which seemed to indicate this man was not in fact descended from the Speaker of the House of Burgesses Thomas Dew (politician) despite that article's citation-less comment. However, this generally well-equipped library/archive does not contain that cited book, and the family is not mentioned in the most recent published set of Virginia genealogy books, Adventures of Purse and Person (4th edition, 2005). Jweaver28 (talk) 20:55, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]