Talk:Theory of Kashmiri descent from lost tribes of Israel

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Roots[edit]

THIS IS A JOKE OF THE 21st CENTURY. KASHMIRI PANDITS ARE THE PUREST OF ARYANS. There are also no etymological similarities between Kashmiri Brahmin surnames and Semitic (Jewish) ones. All Kashmiri Brahmins have originated from an Aryan Rishi and carry this as the genuine surname. Many use titles which were given to them during MUghal, Dogra rule, etc. For example some one who was incharge of the gunpowder during the Dogra role got the title Magazine, while his real surname could have been an Aryan Rishi one such as Atri. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.179 (talk) 19:08, 19 October 2016 (UTC) Do you have any peer-reviewed material by modern, accredited scientists who actually have kept track of the past century of anthropological and genetic studies, and who have given up on nationalistic biases? Because the material you're presenting doesn't look like that. You have a map from a Sunday school in 1880 (before any real study of genetics had begun, and at a time when all anthropological study had nationalistic, even racist, biases), and a map from a tourist trap. Those don't amount to any sort of evidence. You also don't have any hard evidence for your attempted etymologies, there's nothing to show they aren't false cognates. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This important map http://restorationlibrary.org/library_restoration/AOBH/AOBH_016_A.jpg can explain where the descendants of Israelites came from and this map http://www.jesus-kashmir-tomb.com/sitebuilder/images/Map_to_Graves-691x418.jpg also support the research. Long times ago before Ramayana, Yayati's sons Anu and Turvasu migrated from east to the west, from whom arose the Yavana and Turvk. After the Mahabharata Yadava and Abhira migrated there from India. The word Yadava became Yada, while Abhira became Eber or Habhir. Bocah anon (talk)

All fraud theories trying to penetrate Aryan india by semities and then proclaim Indians as Semites. The Aryan nation of India is on solid rooots thus the Jews are frustrated with India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.103.243.225 (talk) 19:22, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A great fraud perpetuated by the Jews (as a result of their insecurity) the long term is by systematic fraud to change the history of Aryan nations. Kashmirs are pure Aryans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.146.246.15 (talk) 16:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC) [reply]

A plan meant to change history gradually and surely of Aryan Kashmir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.146.246.15 (talk) 01:17, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According Abū al-Rayhān Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Bīrūnī[ in Hindu kashmir some Jews from Central Asia were let into trade. But later on they were banned from entering kashmir.

CONSPIRACY OF SEMITES (in this case Jews) to Semitize this Aryan home by fraudulent propaganda.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.146.246.15 (talk) 01:28, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A VIEW OF A KASHMIRI MUSLIM

OUR PROPHET (PBUH)TAUGHT US TO LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THE TRUTH IS THE JEW CAN NOT PENETRATE OUR REGION. WE ARE AN INTELLIGENT PEOPLE AND TOUGH TO TAKE FOR A RIDE. THE KASHMIRI MUSLIM FOLLOWS HIS BELOVED ISLAM A MIDDLE-EASTERN ORIGIN RELIGION, BUT THE KASHMIRI MUSLIM BELONGS TO THE PURE ARYAN RACE AND HIS LANGUAGE IS ALSO INDO-EUROPEAN. NO PERSON FROM THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND KASHMIRI AN ANCIENT AND DEEP ROOTED ARYAN LANGUAGE. THE JEWS ARE FAILING IN THEIR AGENDA IN KASHMIR.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.43.98.151 (talk) 23:51, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possible sources[edit]

Though I don't believe this theory for one minute, the fact that the theory existed appears to be notable, discredited though the theory itself may be. A perusal of gBooks shows a variety of much better sources: [1].

Actually, the old Sunday School map and whatnot mentioned might actually be interesting additions. MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment[edit]

Some Semites (Jewish-Arab) are trying to Semitize important people in the globe as they are insecure. The Arabs are not insecure so these are mainly Jews. Kashmir is where the first book of the Aryans the Rigveda was compiled so how can you Semitize this region by fraud. You are making a launghing stock of yourselves. Many Kashmiris follow a Semitic origin religion Islam but by Race are Aryans. So you are wasting your time and money — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.103.243.225 (talk) 22:05, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

my edits[edit]

I edited this page by adding the proper information from the source already listed in the article (ref no. 10). The old version of the article said that all the Kashmiris are indo aryan descendents but the source only says that kashmiri pandits are indo aryan descendents which are minority in the region, it does not say that muslims living in the region are indo aryans, that what i induced in the article that only kashmiri pandits are indo aryans. I think User:Editor2020 does not have any knowledge about the matter and used his rollback rights illegally to revert my edits without leaving any edit summary. I had not used the poor english, it was enough to understand for the guy who had some knowledge about the subject. You seem to have this problem, reverting people without any reasons, i see that lot on your talk page. Do reply......

thanks Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 19:20, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide a quotation which says what you wish to modify the article to. If you can source it, I'll be glad to include it.Editor2020, Talk 19:25, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I was examining the already listed sources and grabbing the correct information from them, see this [Kaw, M.K (2004). Kashmir and Its People: Studies in the Evolution of Kashmiri Society. APH Publishing. p. 51. ISBN 8176485373.] Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 19:35, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I found it in a book edited by Kaws, but in a paper by a different author. I have changed it. Is this satisfactory? Editor2020, Talk 19:41, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

absolutely ...

thanks Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 13:13, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bamzai source[edit]

Someone might like to review academic opinions of the work of Prithivi Nath Kaul Bamzai, who is cited in this article. Eg: the bio article notes one academic saying that Bamzai had an outmoded view of race. - Sitush (talk) 13:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fringe[edit]

This is some fringe theory that was uncritically propagated by a few colonial administrators and the likes of Bamzai. Will merge a summary to some article. TrangaBellam (talk) 13:17, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]