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DateProcessResult
September 10, 2011Good article nomineeListed

Martin Scorcese[edit]

Why is there a list of films directed by Martin Scorcese at the bottom of the page? Of what relevance is that? Scorcese only produced this film - it was directed by Jean-Marc Valée. I submit that the table be removed from this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Briantw (talk • contribs) 16:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I agree with Brian, and I want this film to be released in the States! It sounds amazing. jengod (talk) 06:16, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think it should be on the table? 76.66.197.17 (talk) 07:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Historical Accuracy"[edit]

For the record, it is complete nonsense to pretend that it is historically inaccurate to depict people in the nineteenth century calling Victoria "Queen of England," referring to the UK as "England," and to its inhabitants as "English." This is what people did in the nineteenth century. People frequentl still do it today, and nowadays Scottish and Welsh people get really pissed off about it. In the nineteenth century, there was much less of that, and what there was most English people didn't care about. It was completely standard to call Victoria "Queen of England" and that's exactly what people did call her. So please don't add the paragraph that I removed back in. john k (talk) 05:52, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"passionate Tory"[edit]

I'm really not certain what the "passionate Tory" line has to do with the accuracy of the incidents mentioned imediately after, which the writer claims are accurate, in some places being word-for-word. This is not a critique of the writer's screenplay as such, nor his bio article. The article cited is primarily about his "passionate support for the Conservative Party, proved a stumbling block to his early acting career", not about any connection of his beliefs to the script in any way, and as such is grossly misleading, and synthesis, if not outright OR in context,

However, the point must be made that Scorsese is a US Democrat, and a well-known figue of the liberal-left political persausion, among whose controversial works is "The Last Temptation of Jesus Christ". One must assume,a s a producer, he was aware of the writer's political leanings, and yet was still involved with the project. I'm not trying to make a "point to be disruptive" here, but either both party affiliations should be mentioned, or both be removed. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 13:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At least two other editors have removed the "passionate Tory" comments, so with a lack of dicsussion by the opposing parties, the consesnus seems to be for leaving hte comments out. Thanks for repsectin ghte concus, though if you still disagree, please state your case here, and try to sway the consensus. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 21:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At the moment the start of the article reads very oddly. A weasel word tag and mentioning that scorsese is a democrat, and that's it. It doesn't make sense: cleaning it.1812ahill (talk) 11:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I thought the IP editor had renmoved those - they are only needed if "passionate Tory" is retained. - BilCat (talk) 12:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To-do list[edit]

To-do: Find source for "In real life she did not meet him until after she became Queen, so King William had no hand in their meeting."

-Ruby2010 comment! 20:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Aranea Mortem (talk • contribs • count) 15:55, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this up, it's looking pretty good, and I'll probably pass it with some improvs.

  • Could you remove the "of the United Kingdom" from Queen Victoria (first sentence)? It seems a little superfluous.
  • "Victoria moves into the just-completed Buckingham Palace" Victoria moves into a recently constructed/completed Buckingham Palace?
  • "They also supported arts and sciences which was celebrated" I could be wrong, but is isn't it "that were celebrated"?
  • "an historian" A his...
  • "The producer later remembered, "She..." Lower case the s.
Thanks for the review! I'll keep working on the others. Ruby comment! 16:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All of the rest of your great suggestions have now been implemented. Thanks again for the review! Kind regards, Ruby comment! 18:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, good work, all passed! Aranea Mortem (talk to me) 13:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Filming[edit]

The article states, "Due to The Duchess of York's status and connections with the British royal family, The Young Victoria was able to film in many actual palaces and other landmarks." I think this assertion needs to be examined.

In fact, the film is notable for the complete absence of "actual palaces", e.g the exteriors of the newly-completed Buckingham Palace - one of the better-known buildings in the entire country - were clearly identifiable as having been shot at another well-known national landmark, Blenheim Palace. If there were any lingering doubts, several of the wide shots clearly showed Blenheim's highly-distinctive towers[1]. The article specifies that scenes were shot in Arundel Castle (which I presume served as a stand-in for the Round Tower in the Windsor Castle scene), but it also claims that Hampton Court (a royal palace)[2] was used, yet the credit list thanked owners for allowing filming in a number of National Trust, etc. properties but there was not a single acknowledgement for the use of any royal residence, garden or park.

It is also stated that the coronation in Westminster Abbey was shot in Lincoln Cathedral. It may be noted that the producers of another recent film - Stone of Destiny - who did not have Sarah Ferguson's "royal connections" were permitted to film inside the Abbey[3].

GJLaw 62.56.55.149 (talk) 17:31, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.blenheimpalace.com/thepalace/palace-image-library.html
  2. ^ http://www.hrp.org.uk/aboutus/whoweare/
  3. ^ http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/oct/14/heritage-scotland

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Unused reviews[edit]

The article contained an unexplained comment block of unused reviews. I've removed them from the article and placed them here in case anyone might want to add them to the article later...

  • Caplan, Nina (5–11 March 2009). "The Young Victoria (2009)". Time Out London. Retrieved 30 December 2011.
  • Rainer, Peter (17 December 2009). "The Young Victoria: movie review". Christian Science Monitor. Retrieved 30 December 2011.
  • Burr, Ty (25 December 2009). "Movie Review: The Young Victoria". The Boston Herald. Retrieved 30 December 2011.
  • Lanthier, Joseph Jon (15 December 2009). "The Young Victoria Film Review". Slant Magazine. Retrieved 30 December 2011.
  • Phipps, Keith (17 December 2009). "The Young Victoria". The Daily Telegraph. Telegraph Media Group. Retrieved 30 December 2011.

... but I doubt it, since the article has a good amount of reviews already. Also the last review seems to have been damaged at some point and is a strange mix of an AV Club review and a review from the Telegraph. The article already includes one review from the Telegraph by Chloe Fox, so the second Telegraph reference might have meant to be the review by Tim Robey. -- 109.79.69.130 (talk) 11:57, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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