Talk:The Occidental Quarterly

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Critical descriptions[edit]

From the article It has been described as a white nationalist journal that seeks to direct American conservatism in the direction of an Anglo-Saxon cultural and racial ideology.[1] has a link at the end that supposedly leads to an article describing it in the way sentence states. The only thing it says about the Occidental Quarterly is "William II has made his mark as a major fundraiser in radical right circles as the founder of the Charles Martel Society in 2001," the Intelligence Report noted. The society publishes The Occidental Quarterly: A Journal of Western Thought and Opinion, "an academic-looking jo Talk:Occidental Quarterly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaurnal filled with articles by white-supremacist luminaries such as Sam Francis, editor for the white supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens and Wayne Lutton of the hate group The Social Contract Press." In addition it also says, "According to the Quarterly's web site, the Society is currently seeking funding several groundbreaking research projects: Taxing the White Family Out of Existence, a study to determine whether an over-bearing tax burden has forced white wives into the workplace thereby slowing the white birth rate; The Cost of Good Intentions, researching whether too much government money has gone to fostering minority-based programs at the expense of the white middle class; and Abjuring the Realm or How to Mitigate a Toxic Culture -- as life in the United States "become[s] increasingly nasty, brutish and even short for whites," the Quarterly proposes publishing "a primer to help people better contend with the myriad problems of earning a livelihood, finding a support group, filtering out the worst elements of the toxic surroundings, raising and educating children." And this comes from the www.workingforchange.com and in its about section [1] it says "WorkingForChange is an online journal of progressive news and opinion published by Working Assets. Visit WorkingForChange.com on a daily basis to read the latest dispatches from nationally syndicated reporters and columnists including Joe Conason, David Sirota, Robert Scheer, and Ellen Goodman. Visit WorkingForChange or contact us for more information." This is clearly a politically charged website with a political axe to grind. And within the article aformentioned article there are no references and it is just a political editorial [2]=17524 ---RG415WBFA

In general, descriptions of a subject that are opinions should be attributed. So the material above would be better phrased, like this: "Columnist Bill Berkowitz has describe the Occidental Quarterly as..." There are numeorous possible references to writers using various epithets for this publication and we should include a mention of them.

"the pseudo-academic journal Occidental Quarterly." [3]
"...he moonlights as an editor of The Occidental Quarterly, a pseudo-scholarly "journal of Western thought and opinion.""[4]
"Marian Coombs's byline has appeared in many of the far right's flagship publications, from Chronicles to Vdare to The Occidental Quarterly, .."[5]
"...the racist journal Occidental Quarterly ." [6]
"...The Occidental Quarterly, a white supremacist publication." [7]
"Among the most prominent white supremacist organizations are ...the Occidental Quarterly (a journal dedicated to the notion that “immigration into the United States should be restricted to selected people of European ancestry”)."[8]
"...while the Occidental Quarterly's anti-Semitic views are well-documented, both in its pages and elsewhere,..." [9]
"...The Occidental Quarterly, a publication that civil rights groups say is a white supremacist organ."[10]
"...the white nationalist journal The Occidental Quarterly." [11]

So yes, it'd be best to re-write the material to include a broader range of criticism. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

why is Wikipedia following what the SPLC describes about this journal as what the journal actually is? since when did the SPLC become experts on what amounts to "science" and pseudoscience? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.180.177.58 (talk) 18:20, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[12] Greg Johnson is the editor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RG415WBFA (talk • contribs) 01:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Who the heck is historian Tony Taylor, even Wikipedia doesn’t know. Why is his opinion any more valuable than Bozo the Clown? Same goes for two pro-Israel pundits David Frum and Max Blumenthal.

Why put critics in the opening of the article unless you are biased against the subject? Wikipedia doesn’t have negative comments in the first paragraph of its article on The Anti-Defamation League nor does Wikipedia quote any Occidental Quarterly writer on the Anti-Defamation League in the Wikipedia. Turn about is fair play. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.51.50.33 (talk) 03:03, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Who in the world is Bill Berkowitz?[edit]

Let me say that I have no connection whatsoever to the Occidental Quarterly and, frankly, have never heard of it before an ADL article pronounced it as a 'racist publication,' strong words indeed. In reading this Wikipedia article, I see at the very beginning some person named Bill Berkowitz, who has no Wiki article on him, uses similarly inciting words to describe this journal.

Who he?? Is Wikipedia now a repository of opinion only? Why not include in the article that I consider this "an unknown journal" simply because I'm not familiar with it? I come to Wikipedia because I seek some scholarly objectivity. Am I naive in doing so? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.15.66 (talk) 20:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you kind of are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.106.27.117 (talk) 19:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Journal or magazine?[edit]

It is called a journal in the lead, but it is categorized as a magazine in the infobox and in the categories. Which is it? I know it looks like an Academic journal, although it is known to be pseudo-scientific. But still what is the best description?Jeff5102 (talk) 11:03, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If it claims to have (some sort of) peer review, I'd categorize it as a journal, otherwise as a magazine. (Even if the "peers" are chosen from amongst their own fringe). These fringe publications are often difficult to fit in... --Randykitty (talk) 16:07, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect[edit]

Why when I search wikipedia for William Regnery does it redirect to this page? William Regnery II founded the Occidental Quarterly but he has his own page, as do other members of his family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.42.157.27 (talk) 16:06, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

William Regnery used to point here since there was no article about the person around 2013. I have now redirected it to William Regnery II. Hopefully this fixes the problem you experienced. —Paleo Neonate – 11:22, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong link[edit]

The link to "American Renaissance" is apparently intended to direct one to the annual meeting of white supremacists which takes place at Montgomery Bell State Park near Dickson, Tennessee since no for-profit business wishes to be associated with such a group. However, it is a link to a style of architecture instead. This needs to be corrected by someone with more expertise in the field of radical-right fringe groups. 2600:1004:B168:AC72:C32:70CD:B2D9:DCA (talk) 15:01, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done I fixed the link, which likely was meant to go to the magazine.--Auric talk 18:32, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]