Talk:The Boat Races 2017

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Reserves races[edit]

Resolved

There is no description of the reserves' races, not even the winners of each; and they are mentioned only to state (three times) that they occurred on the same day, and used the same course as the main races. If this article is to be assessed as GA, there needs to be somewhat more. See for example The Boat Races 2016#Reserves and other mentions in that article. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:16, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

They're mentioned in the lead, in the infobox and when I can find a reliable source, they'll be mentioned in the prose. Meanwhile there's a lot more to be reviewed than just the missing reserve race section. If you know of an RS which covers more than just the results of the races, please let me know. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:11, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Redrose64, still finding it hard to locate any RS about the reserves races. It wouldn't stop a GA though, just because we have no sources. If nothing is reliably and verifiably reporting those races, then Wikipedia safely ignores their existence. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:19, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Redrose64, did you find anything in reliable sources yet? The Rambling Man (talk) 22:24, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, I didn't. But it's not my WP:BURDEN, since I have added no content concerning reserve races.
My point is that for the article to pass GA, it needs to satisfy all the good article criteria, one of which states "it addresses the main aspects of the topic". The activities of Blondie, Goldie, Isis, and Osiris have been covered in the articles for previous years - so the GA reviewer for this one may see their absence this year as a major omission. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:58, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Redrose64 That's the point I'm making, if it's not covered anywhere in reliable sources, it can't be here, so therefore whether it's a major omission or not, it's irrelevant, it simply can't exist. It will certainly not preclude it from becoming a GA and, in time, an FA. I didn't put any "burden" on you, I simply asked a polite question as to whether knew of any sources. The Rambling Man (talk) 04:41, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Redrose64 and as I mentioned, there's plenty to review in the meantime! The Rambling Man (talk) 04:51, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not to worry, we now have this and this which I will work on incorporating unless someone beats me to it!! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:44, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Double hurrah, it's done now! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:43, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have some pictures of the reserve races but haven't sorted through them yet. Andrew D. (talk) 08:15, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Marvellous, but I'm struggling to find any RS coverage of the races outside the results. Do you know of anything that could be used? The Rambling Man (talk) 08:33, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Andrew Davidson I reinserted your Gloriana in what I felt was a more appropriate receptacle. The pre-race excitement of bombs and boatmen was too good to not slam in there. Shame about the result, but didn't the women do well?! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:19, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Never mind. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:43, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Broadcasting and Viewership[edit]

Why is there no info on viewership on this race apart from an unsourced claim in the lead? LordAtlas (talk) 01:40, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The lead has no citations for any of its statements. LordAtlas (talk) 01:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All information noted in the lead is repeated and/or expanded upon in the body where references can be found. Cheers for the interest! The Rambling Man (talk) 04:48, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please show me any citation for "a quarter of a million" who were watching live. That's in the lead and nowhere else. Empty claim. How many people watched this race? You always claim high numbers of millions and all that. I don't doubt you much but at least give some sort of source. LordAtlas (talk) 05:24, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, see "Around a quarter of a million people lined the length of the course to watch the race.[43]", cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 06:09, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Now I'd like to know why it was so difficult to find and why a broadcasting and reaction section does not exist. If you have time, how about international viewership numbers? Someone always remind people that 250-300 million people around the world always watch and so I think it must be easily sourced. LordAtlas (talk) 06:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't difficult to find. A search on "million" revealed it instantly, along with the source. I have no access to international viewership numbers. If you're interested, feel free to do something about it yourself. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:51, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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