Talk:The Archer (song)/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Gained (talk · contribs) 12:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Brachy0008 (talk · contribs) 13:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

@Gained I have placed down some points for improvement. That is all I can do for today, so be sure to keep your eyes open for more points and call-outs from ME-HEE-HEEEEEEEEEE! Brachy08 _(Talk) 06:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Review, is this article ready for review? Does it say it does not want that, but you say it does... How's the intro?

Copyvios

• Violation is possible (Earwig's). However, it is mainly from quotations from the song. Copyvios are 43.2%, which is a bit concerning

Image review

• A bit concerned about the image. I would let it pass, but can you check if you can find a better image? Thanks!

Sourcing

Reliable...?

• FN 59 is unreliable.
• Is Toronto Star reliable?
  • Toronto Star is arguably Canada's largest daily newspaper publication and many people think it's a reputable source
    • Checks out.
• Can't find anything about The Recording Academy, other than the fact that they host the Grammys... any thoughts?
  • I think that's because it's their most notable thing that they do by a long shot.. but I believe the article's editor is an experienced music critic judging by their page
    • I will take a look and tell you my thoughts on it.
      • She definitely wrote a lot of articles for TRA, so it would pass
• Is Atwood Magazine reliable?
  • Removed.
• Is V reliable?
  • Removed.
    • Not removed (yet)
      •  Done
• Is The Ringer reliable?
  • The article's writer Lindsay Zoladz previously worked at New York, which is deemed reliable according WP:RSP.
    • Got it. (I will let it pass)
• Is Stereogum reliable? According to its article, it is a bit bloggy.
  • Stereogum is under SpinMedia, which features Spin and Vibe, both deemed reliable sources according to WP:RSMUSIC. I think it's the same for this one.
    • Got it (presumed reliable)

Mentioned...?

• FN 1: Does not have the quoted texts love letter to love itself and full spectrum of love. Needs rephrasing.
• FN 3: Does not support the release of The Archer for streaming and digital download.
• FN 6: Does not contain the quoted text a different side.
• FN 10: Does not say that The Archer is performed, only said that Swift performed several songs from Lover.
  • She performed the song as the opening track of the show. Gained (talk) 08:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  I meant FN 10. Sorry about that. Brachy08 _(Talk) 08:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  I'm pretty sure that's the ref I checked; it says that Swift began the show with "The Archer" Gained (talk) 09:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  Pretty sure the FN changed to 11 Brachy08 _(Talk) 03:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

• FN 17-18: Neither sources refer to The Archer as a ballad.

And that brings us to FN 20 22. I will pause the source review here (for now), but please address the points.

Update: Reviewed more sources (managed to reach FN 32)... so far so good! I would list more stuff below once I can see an issue. Second update: The entire recording and composition section checks out.

• FN 37: Does not support lyrics are about Swift's reflection on her past
• FN 20, 40, 41: Does not support how Swift was a perpetrator [...] of them
  • I'm pretty sure it was supported by this quote on ref 41: "It's potentially an admission that she does, in fact, love drama and getting into fights, even if she’s played the victim" Gained (talk) 10:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

  that would pass. Brachy08 _(Talk) 11:09, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

And that brings us to the end of lyrical interpretation.

Other stuff

• Live performances of The Archer are under background and release. Tell me why is it present right here, right now. If you want this to be a GA, I wish you would explain and address it.
  • I'm not the one who did this but I assume that both "Background and release" and "Live performances" aspects of the article were very short so it was combined to make it look more complete. Gained (talk) 08:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  Understandable. Maybe do this change

  −

  Background and release

  +

  Background, release and live performances

  Brachy08 _(Talk) 08:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  How about "Background and love performances" instead? The change you proposed is too long for a section. Gained (talk) 09:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

  Sure... That'll do Brachy08 _(Talk) 09:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• A bit of source overload. (FN 21-24)