Talk:Ten Crimes of Qin

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Re: Speedy[edit]

I fully agree that the article as it stands isn't what I think we're going for (was about to speedy it myself), but I was looking into this a bit, and it actually seems to be a real subject that I'd like to see us expand on. Looking at the page for Qin Shi Huang, we see this article's subject mentioned as a historic text. Maybe it's better to delete as is and rewrite later, I'll leave that up to whoever. Also, I've never actually contested a speedy before, so I hooope this is the right path to do so. Thanks for your time. Luna Santin 09:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I have copied in the relevant text from that article to serve as a stub for this one. GeorgeStepanek\talk 09:25, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, heh, can't believe I didn't think of that. Pleasure working with you. :D Luna Santin 09:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
hi 173.9.56.113 (talk) 17:39, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So what were the crimes?[edit]

So what were the "ten crimes" on Qin? The article really should say. 62.172.108.24 (talk) 13:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

“Thus, the Qin dynasty, which Shihuangdi had once predicted would last for "ten thousand generations," outlived its first emperor by only three years. Since that time, scholars have asked themselves what went wrong, and came up with ten crimes of Qin:
  1. Abolition of feudalism.
  2. Building the Great Wall.
  3. Melting down the people's weapons.
  4. Building too many palaces.
  5. Burning books.
  6. Killing scholars.
  7. Building the emperor's tomb.
  8. Seeking immortality drugs.
  9. Banishing the crown prince.
  10. Inflicting cruel punishments.
For these reasons most Chinese historians since that time have called Shihuangdi a tyrant. However, it has also been said that he succeeded where Napoleon Bonaparte failed; he briefly united the known world, and changed it forever. In Communist China, where Confucius is no longer worshiped, Shihuangdi is seen as a revolutionary, comparable to Mao Zedong, and his actions are not called crimes, but progressive, nation-building achievements!”
Source: http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/china/ch03.html
Unfortunately the source probably does not meet the standards for a reference to use in the article, I guess... --Kai Carver (talk) 19:24, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]