Talk:Telescoping effect

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Feels like yesterday...?[edit]

Is this the same thing as when people say "Feels like we just met yesterday," or, conversely, "I feel like I took that test forever ago..."? Thanks,--Uhjoebilly (talk) 05:02, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Telescoping effect outline[edit]

We are working on the article on telescoping effect for our cognitive psychology class. Based on the research we have done, this is a preliminary outline of our page:

  • General Definition and Research
  • The Importance of Telescoping Effect
  • Models of the Telescoping Effect:
  • Date Estimation
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  • Modifiers of Effect
  • Developmental
  • Childhood Memories[10]
*Aging[11]
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  • Smoking and Alcohol [13]
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  • Minimizing the telescoping effect

Reference and textbook sources [17] [18]


Potential Sources

  1. ^ Rubin, David C. (1989). "Telescoping is not time compression: A model". Memory & Cognition. 17: 653–661. doi:10.3758/BF03202626. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  2. ^ Cohen, edited by Gillian (2008). Memory in the real world (Updated ed. ed.). Hove: Psychology Press. ISBN 1841696412. {{cite book}}: |edition= has extra text (help); |first= has generic name (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  3. ^ National Research Council (1984). Cognitive Aspects of Survey Methodology: Building A Bridge Between Disciplines. Washington, DC. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
  4. ^ Thompson, Charles P. (1988). "Telescoping in dating naturally occurring events". Memory & Cognition. 16: 461–468. doi:10.3758/BF03214227. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  5. ^ SHIMOJIMA, YUMI (2002). "MEMORY OF ELAPSED TIME AND FEELING OF TIME DISCREPANCY". Perceptual and Motor Skills. 94: 559–565. doi:10.2466/PMS.94.2.559-565.
  6. ^ Janssen, Steve M. J. (2006). "Memory for time: How people date events". Memory & Cognition. 34: 138–147. doi:10.3758/BF03193393. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  7. ^ Prohaska, Vincent (1998). "Forward Telescoping: The Question Matters". Memory. 6: 455–465. doi:10.1080/741942604. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  8. ^ Thompson, Charles P.; Skowronski, John J.; Larsen, Steen F.; Betz, Andrew L. (1996). Autobiographical memory : remembering what and remembering when. Mahwah, NJ: Erlbaum. ISBN 978-0805815146.
  9. ^ Lee, Peter James (2004). "The role of guessing and boundaries on date estimation biases". Psychonomic Bulletin & Review. 11: 748–754. doi:10.3758/BF03196630. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  10. ^ Wang, Qi (2010). "Children dating childhood memories". Memory. 18: 754–762. doi:10.1080/09658211.2010.508749. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  11. ^ Friedman, William J. (2010). "Aging and the speed of time". Acta Psychologica. 134: 130–141. doi:10.1016/j.actpsy.2010.01.004. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  12. ^ Crawley, Susan E. (2000). "When did Mrs Thatcher resign? The effects of ageing on the dating of public events". Memory. 8: 111–121. doi:10.1080/096582100387650. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  13. ^ Johnson, Eric O. (2005). "Forward telescoping bias in reported age of onset: an example from cigarette smoking". International Journal of Methods in Psychiatric Research. 14: 119–129. doi:10.1002/mpr.2. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  14. ^ Shillington, Audrey M. (2012). "Self-Reported Age of Onset and Telescoping for Cigarettes, Alcohol, and Marijuana: Across Eight Years of the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth". Journal of Child & Adolescent Substance Abuse. 21: 333–348. doi:10.1080/1067828X.2012.710026. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  15. ^ Arnold, Douwe Draaisma ; transl. by (2006). Why life speeds up as you get older : how memory shapes our past (1st pbk. ed. ed.). Cambridge: Cambridge university press. ISBN 9780521691994. {{cite book}}: |edition= has extra text (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  16. ^ Morwitz, Vicki G (1997). "It Seems Like Only Yesterday: The Nature and Consequences of Telescoping Errors in Marketing Research". Journal of Consumer Psychology. 6: 1–29. doi:10.1207/s15327663jcp0601_01.
  17. ^ Autobiographical memory : theoretical and applied perspectives (Reprint. ed.). Mahwah, NJ: Erlbaum. 1998. ISBN 9780805827958. {{cite book}}: |first= has generic name (help); |first= missing |last= (help)
  18. ^ Sutherland, Ed (2001). Cognitive psychology. Exeter: Crucial. ISBN 9781903337134.

Kcsmit (talk) 15:16, 15 February 2013 (UTC) Brcurtin (talk) 15:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kcsmit and Brcurtin! I didn't check all of your sources, but those I checked were all WP:primary sources, that is, results of single studies. However, Wikipedia is not an academic paper or essay! Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources (for instance, journal reviews and professional or advanced academic textbooks) and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources (such as undergraduate textbooks). WP:MEDRS describes how to identify reliable sources for medical information, which is a good guideline for many psychology articles as well. So please, reconsider your choice of sources and use secondary sources instead! With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 20:11, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Lova Fov. We are currently looking for more sources. If you have any recommendations, please let us know. Brcurtin (talk) 22:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I couldn't find any - so I guess there's nothing else to do than to use the primary sources. Sometimes in the introduction of a study, there is a summary of results of previous studies and that can be a valuable source of information. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 19:35, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the advice. Brcurtin (talk) 01:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Some other sources
  • Hölscher, Frank (18 October 2009). "Differences between men and women in the course of opiate dependence: is there a telescoping effect?". European Archives of Psychiatry and Clinical Neuroscience. 260 (3): 235–241. doi:10.1007/s00406-009-0053-x. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  • Alcohol:
    • Osain Welcome, M. (NaN undefined NaN). "P03-231 - The telescoping effect of alcohol: true or false?". European Psychiatry. 25: 1298. doi:10.1016/S0924-9338(10)71285-2. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
    • Keyes, K. M. (3 May 2010). "Telescoping and Gender Differences in Alcohol Dependence: New Evidence From Two National Surveys". American Journal of Psychiatry. 167 (8): 969–976. doi:10.1176/appi.ajp.2009.09081161. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
    • Zilberman, M (2003). "Gender similarities and differences: the prevalence and course of alcohol- and other substance-related disorders". Journal of addictive diseases. 22 (4): 61–74. PMID 14723478. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
    • Alvanzo, AA (2011 Nov 1). "Race/ethnicity and sex differences in progression from drinking initiation to the development of alcohol dependence". Drug and alcohol dependence. 118 (2–3): 375–82. PMID 21652154. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  • Smoking
    • Kushner, MG (2012 Nov). "Greater elevation in risk for nicotine dependence per pack of cigarettes smoked among those with an anxiety disorder". Journal of studies on alcohol and drugs. 73 (6): 920–4. PMID 23036209. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  • Janssen, Steve M. J. (NaN undefined NaN). "Memory for time: How people date events". Memory & Cognition. 34 (1): 138–147. doi:10.3758/bf03193393. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  • Kupek, Emil (1 January 2002). BMC Medical Research Methodology. 2 (1): 14. doi:10.1186/1471-2288-2-14. {{cite journal}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

pages/chapters in books (tertiary):

I couldn't find a meta-analysis, which is disappointing. You could also use pages/chapters from reference books which would be tertiary material. Smallman12q (talk) 19:47, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the sources. We will look at these and continue to look for others. Brcurtin (talk) 21:01, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Peer reviewers, Kendra and I's last revision was on March 21 at 3:30. Thanks for looking over our page! Brcurtin (talk) 20:50, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Smallman12q, thanks for nominating our article and helping us with our article. We also noticed that you created a link to a blank Ferdi Elsas page on the telescoping page, we were wondering if you were planning to fill that page with more information or if we should remove that link because the page is blank? Thanks, Brcurtin (talk) 19:53, 12 April 2013 (UTC) and Kendra[reply]

Red links are a good thing since (even if a bit unesthethic) since they may drive an editor with the knowledge to start the article... It is like it is screaming at you "Are you bold enough?": See WP:RED, which in a nutshell says "Red links for subjects that should have articles but do not are not only acceptable, but needed in the articles. They serve as a clear indication of which articles are in need of creation, and encourage it."
Bests.--Garrondo (talk) 20:24, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and thanks for all your other advice. Brcurtin (talk) 21:50, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK[edit]

I've filed a nomination for Wikipedia:Did you know at Template:Did you know nominations. Once it goes through, it'll appear on the front page in the "Did You Know" section. You can follow it below. Cheers.Smallman12q (talk) 18:34, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Comments for improvement[edit]

Due to the lack of secondary sources in the article (independently of whether they are out there or not) I do not feel that I can talk much about the content itself. However I will try to make some comments on how to improve the article.

As first idea: See WP:lead, where it is explained how the lead of an article should be. In summary: it should summarize the ideas of the article. It should also be short (specially for a short article like this one, and not technical. Right now it does not fulfill any of those characteristics.

  • You could (should) move any content that is not present in the body of the article to existing or new sections: Examples of possible new sections to move content from lead: description, history, famous examples.
  • You could then summarize the article in the lead in a non technical manner including some info from each section.

I paste here some further comments on format that I made at the deep dyslexia article; in which some of your class-mates are working, and that also apply here (Examples are from their article, but as I say, similar mistakes appear also in your article).


  • Capital letters: I do not think that the models are names by themselves. I do not think they merit the use of title case. In text I would change them to lower case (and unbolded as proposed above): e.g. I would change The Morton and Patterson (Dual Route) Model is based upon the to The Morton and Patterson (dual route) model is based upon the. Similarly titles should be changed to sentence case (e.g:Dual Route Model would be Dual route model).
  • I would also increase the number of technical or important (for the article) terms linked from this article.
  • Another recommendation at this moment is that you try to increase the numbers of articles linking to this one (In a sensible way: the idea is not to do inside wiki spamming :-). In which articles would make sense to have an in-text link to this article? In which others makes lots of sense to include this article in the see also section? If you are not sure on how to do it you can say here possible related articles and we can take a look at them and how to do it.

Bests.--Garrondo (talk) 16:09, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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