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Russian cosmonaut[edit]

I thought this mission would be the first to launch a Russian cosmonaut once again on a US spacecraft ? Is there a reliable source for the crew ? Hektor (talk) 22:38, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's a source cited in the article (spacefacts.de). I haven't seen anything more official though... Rosbif73 (talk) 15:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have doubts about the reliability of that source. Discussion here. --mfb (talk) 20:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I not heard anything from NASA regarding this. UnitedFarmingInc (talk) 06:40, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update first part of crew has been announced today from NASA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eth132489 (talk • contribs) 2020-12-15T04:01:03 (UTC)

NASA acting administrator said yesterday that the fourth crew member will likely not be a Russian cosmonaut. It is too late for this. 131.176.243.9 (talk) 13:09, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resilience?[edit]

Resilience is doing the Inspiration 4 mission on 15 September 2021. As they hardly can refurbish Resilience in less than a month, it looks like plans have changed and the crew-3 on 23 October 2021 might launch on a new capsule. Either way, "Benji Reed, senior director of human spaceflight programs at SpaceX, said the final launch date for Crew-3 will be determined by the refurbishment of the Resilience capsule after Crew-1 recovery.[6][7] " is wrong/has changed. Christoph194 (talk) 17:11, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also after Inspiration 4 it's going to be Crew Dragon's fifth orbital crewed flight. Not fourth as stated in the first paragraph. 89.102.81.224 (talk) 09:06, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crew 3 will launch on the the third crewed Crew Dragon - named Endurance. AmigaClone (talk) 19:47, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kayla Barron[edit]

Training for Crew-3 has been removed from her NASA astronaut bio so do we do not really have source now. Hektor (talk) 07:43, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps a ^{[citation needed]} tag on her name is the proper approach for the time being as this will certainly be resolved by a NASA announcement in the near future. I suggest this approach as her name seems to appear on the mission art work but I'm not sure if that patch art comes from a reliable source. Scottd521 (talk) 18:02, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

MS1 and MS2[edit]

Is the sharing of role between Barron and Maurer sourced ? When NASA makes press releases about this mission, Barron is listed first. Hektor (talk) 11:23, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Time of launch[edit]

My calculations are showing a launch time of 02:03:37 UTC, can anyone else confirm? Will keep an eye out on the SpaceX website as well as news sources.

Sincerely,
Rafaelmanman (talk) 02:08, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notice, Resolved. Official launch time confirmed to be 02:03:31. Rafaelmanman (talk) 23:22, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of "Current Event" template[edit]

@CRS-20 and Dankluxuries: Hello. I was thinking, do you think the current event template should be removed? Just checking with the other major editors of this page. Please respond. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafaelmanman (talk • contribs) 02:35, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It gets removed automatically if nobody edits the article for 5 hours. But it's still getting updates about once an hour at the moment. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:21, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

Almost all the infobox information is not sourced in the article- if not sourced in the infobox, it should be added somewhere in the body of the text with sources. This includes all the "Spacecraft properties" information, "End of mission" proposed dates, "Undocking" dates. And using way too many tweets as primary sources instead of actual reliable sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:21, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The COSPAR ID link doesn't seem to be working, which normally has data on "Spacecraft properties". The only other source I could find was Gunter's Space Page(https://space.skyrocket.de) but this one looks like a self-published source. Scaramouche33 (talk) 13:04, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the article doesn't actually say what the mission is- I believe it's to the ISS? Joseph2302 (talk) 14:56, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I added that. Could somebody who edits these articles regularly please fix the CN tags. I believe the citations are readily available but I am not familiar with the best sources. Jehochman ^Talk 15:05, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to add a source on the ID number but I can't find any information on mass. I tried searching the NSSDCA but I couldn't find anything. As for the duration, most news sources mention 6 months but don't specify the number of days. Scaramouche33 (talk) 17:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've also checked the NSSDCA. I think they may add an entry of it later. I believe that is the best option. Also, I found a CBS article that specifies 166 days. Rafaelmanman (talk) 23:50, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adding on, the first refrence linked in the refrences section of the Prime Crew table also appears self published. Rafaelmanman (talk) 23:54, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Scaramouche33: I finally found a good source for COSPAR ID and other technical information (https://in-the-sky.org/spacecraft.php?id=49407). Rafaelmanman (talk) 00:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sources on orbit[edit]

Do we need a source that it's a low Earth Geocentric orbit? It's going to the International Space Station, of course it's going to be Geocentric. As far as I know all crewed flights since the end of the Apollo program has been low Earth. Scaramouche33 (talk) 18:05, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mission duration vs time docked?[edit]

I don't think both are 166 days (planned) seeing that time to and from total IIUC is more than 24 hours
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Number of people who have been to space[edit]

I'm perplexed by two pieces of data the article lists, since they seem to be in conflict. The first is that Maurer is the 600th person to go to space, and Barron is the 601st. The second is that this is the first spaceflight for both of them, as well as Chari. How is primacy decided in a situation like this, where they're all going up at the same time? List of space travellers by first flight treats them as a bloc. Tisnec (talk) 04:26, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure whether this information is WP:DUE. This seems like an arbitrary number - usually you would talk about 100, 500, 1000, 10000 and so on. BeŻet (talk) 17:21, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BeŻet It may warrant removal given it could be wrong. For now I've tagged it. Maybe someone can solve this puzzle. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:06, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

MS1 and MS2[edit]

I am still confused about this. Till Crew-3, MS-1 had seat 1 (port seat) and MS-2 had seat 4 (starboard seat). If I read the article, for Crew-3 it would be the opposite. Maurer would be MS-1 in the starboard seat... Is this correct ? Do we have any explanation why ? Hektor (talk) 21:18, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

600 and 601[edit]

This concerns the sentence: "This launch brought the total number of humans who have been to space to more than 600 with Maurer (600) and Barron (601)". Ok, NYT claims 600 and 601 but based on List of space travellers by first flight they'd be 586/87/89 (or 586 for all three)? Further, why isn't Raja Chari mentioned, and since they went to space on the same flight, aren't their numbers shared (it should be 586 for all three, or if the list is wrong and NYT is right, 600 or such)? Chari should have his own number, it's weird to omit him from the list, and it could be 599, 600, 601, or even 602... unless the numbers are official? Who awards them? Clearly, someone, somewhere, messed up, either at NYT or on our wiki list. In either case, again, we have an error. Ps. I see this was raised above at #Number of people who have been to space, but with no answer. I've tagged this in the article as a possible error. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's probably because the NYT is using the more generous US definition of space as 50 miles, rather than the Kármán line at 100 km which is used in the WP list. This means that certain X-15 flights and certain VSS Unity flights are included in their count but not ours. Not sure what the deal is with Raja Chari though. Ionmars10 (talk) 04:25, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ionmars10 Huh. Arguably, we could have both lists. Do you know if the 50 miles list could be referenced to something? NYT had to use something as a source, right? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:53, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All rookie crew[edit]

the article claims the crew was the first all rookie NASA crew since Skylab 4. However both the astronauts on STS-2, the second shuttle flight, were NASA rookies. 82.2.17.130 (talk) 23:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]