Talk:Southern Unionist

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"Scalawag" is the more general term and is used for the post 1965 period. Most wartime unionists (but not all) became Scalawags, as did many wartime Confederates. The article (in sections I deleted) stated that people like General Longstreet--Lee's #2 general--was a "unionist" who supported the Union not the Confederacy!!! What nonsense. Longsreet was a leading Scalawag and leading Confederate both. The term "scalawag" is standard in scholarly and popular books and reference books, and "Southern unionist" is confined to wartime.Rjensen (talk) 09:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Related Terms[edit]

How are the terms "Southern Unionist", "Union Loyalist", "Southern Loyalist", and "Lincoln Loyalists" distinguished from each other? In my reading I have found they all seem to be used very similarly. I was considering creating a new article "Loyalist (American Civil War)", until I saw this article. Should they be one article, or do they warrant separate articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MissionInn.Jim (talk • contribs) 21:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For now I created a redirection page for "Loyalist (American Civil War)" to go to "Southern Unionist". -- MissionInn.Jim (talk) 21:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Residency of Southern Unionists[edit]

The opening sentence states that "Southern Unionists were people living in the Southern United States", but the article on the Southern United States is imprecise as to which states are included. Is it accurate to say that "Southern Unioinists" lived in the Confederate States of America? If so, I propose using "Confederate States of America" rather than "Southern United States" to more precisely identify who the Southern Unionists were. Another possibility is to say they lived in one of the 11 secessioninst states. Please see the entry I placed on the Loyalist (disambiguation) page. --MissionInn.Jim (talk) 22:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category and lists[edit]

I suggest that we find, list, and put all the Southern Unionists in a category to see who was who during the Civil War, which side they were on, and where they lived. Like Sam Houston, Gen. George Thomas, Adm. David Farragut, and Maj. Robertson. You see what I mean? 24.250.59.162 (talk) 19:20, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kentucky were Southern Unionist[edit]

Kentucky geographically is and was a Southern State. The Union soldiers from Kentucky called themselves Southern Unionist. They never considered themselves as Northerners, but Unionist. Their diaries and letters makes this very clear. They did not like or use the term "Yankee" for themselves. 67.140.144.83 (talk) 16:18, 26 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.140.144.83 (talk)

George Henry Thomas[edit]

Is the non-inclusion of George Henry Thomas the most glaring omission?

Montalban (talk) 13:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Added. Bms4880 (talk) 20:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Houston[edit]

This article has Sam Houston in it's list of Prominent Southern Unionists and a picture, but Sam_Houston#Governor_of_Texas (with it's own footnote Sam_Houston#cite_note-Campbell,_2000-83) paints a picture that he eventually became a supporter of the Confederacy. Should he be removed? Or at least give some clarity about his position. It seems odd to count someone as a Southern Unionist when there's proof that you stopped supporting the Union.