Talk:Sophia Yan

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Biographical details[edit]

Well the first thing we would need would be a few more of the more impersonal details - birth days for instance, but nothing that would allow a crazed stalker to track her down. The second would be some sort of hard copy verification. Anyone know if any newspaper has covered her career so far? It is moments like these I wish I had her Mother's phone number. Lao Wai 17:45, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone know why Wiki decided that the Oberlin addresses were spam? Lao Wai 15:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know Yan's Chinese name? Lao Wai 13:00, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does anybody know what Yan is up to now? I heard that she is only accepting private engagements.

Actually you're sounding a bit like the "crazed stalker" you eschewed.68.46.183.96 (talk) 09:52, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese American[edit]

Exactly in what sense is calling Ms Yan a Chinese-American POV pushing? Ethnically speaking she is of Chinese origin or are all Bensheng Ren denying that now? Anyone know what she thinks? Lao Wai 09:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Due to the political status of Taiwan, stating Taiwanese as Chinese is a violation of NPOV. What she thinks is irrelevant.--Bonafide.hustla 10:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese-American in an ethnic term, not a political one. The Taiwanese are mainly of Chinese origin. That is not POV, that is a statement of fact. Nor do we know what Ms Yan herself thinks. She wrote most of this article I believe yet has not changed that category. The assumption must be that she does think she is a C-A. It would be POV to claim otherwise. Lao Wai 13:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One can argue Japanese and Korean are originally of Chinese origin, claiming a Taiwanese American to be Chinese is a controverisial political issue because of the political status. We do not say George Bush is English because he is of English ethnicity, we say he is an American. If this person holds both a Taiwanesea and Amerian citizenship, she can be only be classified as Taiwanese American.--Bonafide.hustla 20:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of spreading this over a bunch of individual biographical pages, keep the discussion at Talk:Taiwanese American and Talk:List of Chinese Americans.

George Bush checks "white" on the US Census form. Sophia Yan checks "Chinese". "Taiwanese" is not an option. --Jiang 01:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They check Asians instead of Chinese. Plus US census has nothing to do wikipedia. Of all the Taiwanese I know, they do not check Chinese because they do consider themselves a separate cultural group or a greater part of the Asian cultural group.--Bonafide.hustla 02:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese is listed under "Asian"; that is the next item down. Taiwanese refusing to be known as huaren is an extremist minority, like native Hawaiians refusing to accept that they are Americans. It is evident that you do not read the Chinese newspaper or listen to speeches by DPP politicians. --Jiang 02:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No Taiwanese I know, not even the Deepest Green supporters, deny they are ethnically Chinese. I don't know that many Deep Greens though. What you are doing is taking a small and unrepresentative political view and foisting it on Ms Yan. I do not know if she calls herself Chinese American or Taiwanese American or even Belgian American. There is no point making her support a political point of view she does not. It appears that she is around here and she has not changed the C-A category so far (if you're out there, leave me a message and I'll fix it. Nice photo too by the way). Also "Taiwanese" citizenship does not exist. She can only hold a Republic of China passport. Lao Wai 09:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You call President Bush an American, not a British-American, even though he's ethnically British. In addition, Korean, Singaporean and Japanese are also originally of Chinese origin, but you don't call them Chinese-Americans. Chinese American refers to people from China, which may or may not apply to Taiwanese because of the politcal situation.--Bonafide.hustla 10:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Again, this is discussed elsewhere. "Chinese American" is an ethnic/racial label, not a political one. Mr. Bush is white, the common term applied to European Americans. Just like Mr. Bush, Sophia Yan is an American. "Nationality" is not relevant here. --Jiang 10:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]