Talk:Sonic Boom (2014 video games)/Archive 1

Request lock

Too much vandalism. ScienceApe (talk) 21:35, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Already on it: 594425969 czar ♔ 22:02, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done by Mark Arsten NFLisAwesome ^{(ZappaOMati's alternate account)} 21:44, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2014

Integrate the relevant details from this interview into the development and gameplay sections of the article, such as the gamepad functionality, upgrade system, and lack of Chaos Emeralds. 136.181.195.25 (talk) 14:16, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Would you have that interview information from a reliable source? (WP:VG/RS) czar ♔ 23:45, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Are Rafei and Frost not reliable enough sources? I mean, it's not like print where all we have to verify it's them is the word of whoever's publishing; you can very clearly see them giving answers to the questions, so unless they're lying to the camera, I'm not sure why this would be in dispute. Also, Sonic Stadium has traditionally been considered an acceptable source for news on Sonic related articles. -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 13:47, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

The video itself, maybe, if it's a self-published source, but unless the site has editorial control or a similar mark of notability, I wouldn't use it. What's more is that there is no rush to include posts about fundamental details written by non-journalists: if it is worth mentioning, it will invariably be picked up by a RS. Where was the consensus established on Sonic Stadium as a RS? I didn't see it in WP:VG/RS. czar ♔ 03:54, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 00:02, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I've started a discussion over at the Sega Task Force talk page. Feel free to contribute. -- 69.14.66.237 (talk) 17:29, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Renaming/splitting article?

Sega just put out an announcement that the two games will have different names: Rise of Lyric for Wii U, Shattered Crystal for 3DS, with both having different gameplay and storylines. In light of this, would it be a good idea to split the article, with a page for each version? Or at the very least, revise the title so it's now "2014 video games"? (Also, we should probably try to grab as much information from this release as possible to help flesh out the article and fill the gaps.) -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 16:50, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Considering how the overwhelming majority of currently available reliable sources discuss these games as a set with each other, I think we should keep the two games together in one article for now. After the games are released, or as we approach the release date, more information about the individual games, including gameplay and reception, will become known, and I would support splitting the article then. As for now, I have  moved the page to Sonic Boom (2014 video games), as you suggested. Mz7 (talk) 21:26, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I think at this point there's probably enough notable story/gameplay differences to split into seperate articles. Sega's put out boxart for both versions if that helps. Wonchop (talk) 18:06, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Right, seeing as the gameplay and story for the two games are both very different, it makes sense to split them into separate articles. I have no objections to splitting the article, but I don't have objections to waiting until we come closer to November before doing it either. Mz7 (talk) 02:00, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

I think we should split this into two pages, Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric and Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal. I just saw "This page has some issues". So if any fan of the blue fast hedgehog can do it for me, that would be great! Project Fairy Member Grace (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:34, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

We've got release dates, names, regions, characters and more important news. It's time to split pages, isn't it? User:LolmenX 10:24, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

• Support splitting. These two differ more than, say, Pokémon X does from Y or Zelda: Oracle of Seasons does from Ages - however, this does bring up an uneasy precedent: we don't typically create separate pages for, say, the DS version of an Xbox 360/PS3/Wii game even if everything's different about them. Not that we couldn't, necessarily, but it isn't usually done. Tezero (talk) 02:02, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
• Weak oppose, the "weak" coming from the fact that 1) I don't know that much about this game and 2) I honestly don't care a lot about this whole thing. However, I'm leaning more towards keeping the article as it is: as Tezero has said above, we normally don't create separate pages, and this situation is closer to being "1 game with 2 different versions" than "2 different games". Additionally, reading through the article as it is, I expect that if the article were to be split, the "gameplay" and "development" sections of the article would be similar, with the only real differences being "plot" and "reception", which results in unnecessary redundancy and content forking. Perhaps a split may be needed when the game is actually released and reviews start coming in, but not now. Satellizer (´ ･ ω ･ `) 12:58, 26 September 2014 (UTC) In that case I'd be neutral, then. Sorry. Satellizer (´ ･ ω ･ `) 01:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Development and gameplay would also be different as they are developed by two different developers and have different gameplay styles. ---- MAinternational 23:09 6 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Development admittedly might have to be similar - I don't remember seeing a whole lot of coverage of Sanzaru's work on Crystal - but yeah, Gameplay will definitely be different. I was at the Sonic Boom convention in New York this past weekend (if by any chance anyone reading this was there, I was the guy with the Amy hat) and played the demos; Lyric is like a cross between the daytime portions of Unleashed and Ratchet and Clank, while Crystal is like a blander version of Donkey Kong Country. They differ more in gameplay than any two games picked out of all the Genesis and Advance games. Tezero (talk) 23:03, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
• Cautious support splitting, mostly what Tezero said. TheMeaningOfBlah (talk) 12:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
• Stong support splitting. --- MAinternational 23:09 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Different titles, different gameplay, different playable characters, different story, and it's already been revealed that "Sonic Boom" is a spinoff series. That said, there's a chance that there could be more games with the "Sonic Boom" title in the future and of the same series. For that reason, I think it's about time that this article is split. We have enough information at this point, right? 76.9.90.38 (talk) 05:27, 14 October 2014 (UTC)ninjack7

Alright, it doesn't look like anyone's in opposition here, so are we good to go? Tezero (talk) 05:59, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, let's split the articles. - Zagurzem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zagurzem (talk • contribs) 20:25, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

On it right now. If anyone objects later, we can consider re-merging. Tezero (talk) 21:01, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Alright, done and this is now a disambig. Please keep an eye out for any errors I may have made while moving content. Tezero (talk) 21:23, 8 November 2014 (UTC)