Talk:Singing telegram

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This article could do with some more useful expansion, more information on the following might help:

• "Western Union began offering singing telegram services in 1933." Is there any further information to expand on this further and back this up? Any references?
• A paragraph or two on the common types of singing telegram, expanding how it is usually done as a parody ie. using Gorillas or as a token of affection like a Serenade by a professional singer/musician etc.

Legoman 09:31, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

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These sources said an earlier singing telegram was delievered on February 10, 1933 by New York City's Postal Telegraph Company (which later merged with Western Union).

However, all these Websites do NOT offer much further details:

http://www.terramedia.co.uk/Chronomedia/years/1933.htm http://www.foodreference.com/html/html/food-history-1930.html http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/t/telephones_and_telecommunications/index.html?s=oldest& or search Google on some key words http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=February+1933+%22Postal+Telegraph%22+first+singing+telegram&btnG=Search

as well as Wikipedia's own pages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_10 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1933

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.111.158.17 (talk • contribs) 15:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Merging

There are many orphaned stubs, such as the kissogram, that could be merged here and make this into one article. I started this, there may be more out there. --Ifnord (talk) 00:41, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

The article Singing Valentines has also been recommended for merging with this article. However, in the Singing Valentine Wikipedia article, there is a section that explicitly states the difference between singing telegrams and singing valentines. Does anyone believe that sentence is coming from a non-neutral point of view? Additionally, the Singing Valentine article seems to be a big enough article where it could stand on its own, but if anyone has more knowledge on the similarities between the two, care to share? Thanks! Mewhho18 (talk) 14:25, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

It has now been proposed that the Singing Valentines article be merged into Barbershop Harmony Society instead. Polly Tunnel (talk) 18:07, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 14 April 2016

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The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) — Music1201 ^talk 23:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

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Singing telegram → Novelty telegram – Now that Kissogram and Stripogram have been merged into this article, the title has become slightly inaccurate. Some of these novelty telegram services do not necessarily involve singing. Novelty telegram seems to be the generic term (Google Books has 20,000 results for it). Polly Tunnel (talk) 18:28, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

• Split into a general "novelty telegram" article, and a more focused "singing telegram" article, which is the most common and most notable type. I see no discussion of the merger here -- 70.51.45.100 (talk) 05:03, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your alternative suggestion. Kissogram was merged here on 19 April 2015. The only discussion of it that I can see is the comment by Ifnord in the Talk:Singing telegram#Merging section above. The reason for the merger seems to have been the comparatively small amount of information in the Kissogram article and the desire to avoid stubs. A Novelty telegram article would still be quite small, but with Kissogram, Stripogram and a summary of Singing Telegram it may be large enough. Splitting the article may turn out to be temporary, as there is likely to be an attempt at some point in the future to merge Singing telegram into a more generic Novelty telegram article. Polly Tunnel (talk) 10:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose a move and oppose a split. The most common name and notable form is the singing telegram. The article correctly calls the other types "variants" and they are derivatives of the singing telegram. With so little material overall, there is no need for separate articles. —  AjaxSmack  02:28, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose per AjaxSmack. Although kissogram is arguably an important topic too, I think singing telegram is the most common type, and "novelty telegram" is a made up term as far as I can tell. The current arrangement seems OK.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:38, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

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DC COMICS INC., Plaintiff, v. UNLIMITED MONKEY BUSINESS, INC., et al., Defendants 598 F. Supp. 110 Civ. A. No. C82-2264A Oct. 11, 1984

United States District Court, N.D. Georgia, Atlanta Division.

Miles Alexander, Joseph Beck, Jerre B. Swann, Gail Tusan Joyner, Atlanta, Ga., for plaintiff.

Francis M. Pinckney, Charlotte, N.C., John Pennington, Atlanta, Ga., for defendants.

ORDER

SHOOB, District Judge.

This action arises under federal trademark and copyright statutes and under state law. Plaintiff holds copyrights and trademarks pertaining to the fictional characters SUPERMAN and WONDER WOMAN, their names and attributes, and has exploited those properties in the distribution of comic books, films, and merchandise. Defendants are a corporation and its owners that engage in the franchising of “singing telegram” companies, and a partnership that operates one of the franchises. Among the skits performed by defendants and their licensees are two that feature characters named “Super Stud” and “Wonder Wench”. Plaintiff alleges that the use of those characters infringes upon its property rights, and seeks a permanent injunction barring the use of those characters.

Curious implications. Nemo 19:53, 5 April 2019 (UTC)