Talk:Siege of Patras (1821)

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Greek or Ottoman victory?[edit]

While the infobox states that Greeks captured Patras, the article states that the Ottomans retained the town. Wich one is true?.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 21:59, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that the article claims the siege was successful (somewhat?), but afterwards control returned to the Ottomans. Drmies (talk) 14:03, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I see what it is: it's the difference between city and fortress. The siege was still going on in 1824. Drmies (talk) 14:08, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Historical accuracy of the Ottoman flag (The five-pointed star didn't appear until the 1840s)[edit]

I made all my changes for historical accuracy. The five-pointed-star flag was used after 1844. Read the information in Flags of the Ottoman Empire: "The five pointed star did not appear until the 1840s." (Marshall, Tim (2017-07-04). A Flag Worth Dying For: The Power and Politics of National Symbols. Simon and Schuster. ISBN 978-1-5011-6833-8.) The star and crescent flag was never used in the 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th and 17th centuries, and most of the 18th century. "...the flag was defined as red by decree in 1793 and an eight-pointed star was added." (Publishing, D. K. (2009-01-06). Complete Flags of the World. Penguin. ISBN 978-0-7566-5486-3. Marshall, Tim (2017-07-04). A Flag Worth Dying For: The Power and Politics of National Symbols. Simon and Schuster. ISBN 978-1-5011-6833-8.) Also about the Ottoman red flag: "According to Rıza Nur, sultan Selim I (1512-20) had a white personal flag, while the Ottoman Army flag was red (kızıl bayrak). During Süleyman I's reign (1520-66) the janissaries had a white flag while the timariot cavalry had a red flag. It was used as the Ottoman civic and merchant flag from 1793 to 1923." (Jane Hathaway (1 February 2012) A Tale of Two Factions: Myth, Memory, and Identity in Ottoman Egypt and Yemen, SUNY Press, ISBN 978-0-7914-8610-8) - Aybeg (talk) 06:57, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]