Talk:Salva Kiir Mayardit

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Only semi-autonomous?[edit]

I've been noticing lately a linguistic change in process – nobody wants to say autonomous anymore, it's always qualified as semi-autonomous. Now, to me autonomy means exactly the state of being self-governing but not independent – Southern Sudan post-Naivasha could be a textbook case. Semi-autonomous, to my mind, must mean a particularly limited autonomy, and that's not the impression I get from reading the Naivasha Accord. QuartierLatin 1968 15:54, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Autonomy seems to back you up on this. I'm not sure what "semi-autonomous" means either, now that I think about it, but it seems to be the commonly used weasel word even for news articles. - BanyanTree 16:25, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
i definitely agree with both of you as well. --la gaie 17:45, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

He isn't president of Southern Sudan. The country isn't independent yet! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 05:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Birthdate[edit]

Can we get more definite detail on his birthdate, please? -Fsotrain09 20:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SPLA Child Soldier practice[edit]

My question to the editor: Why paragraph about the involvement of the SPLA on the Child Soldier practice is immediately deleted? I have added information with correct references and still it was deleted with stating any reason for deletion

Political views[edit]

I have removed this section since it was about one-third the word count of the article and dealt entirely with his views on homosexuality. Does anyone honestly believe one-third of the political discourse in South Sudan revolves around homosexuality? It is against NPOV to include such a selective rendering of his political views. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.3.203 (talk) 09:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Designate (talk) 17:06, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have no opinion on this, but I would clarify that it doesn't have to represent a third of political discourse in South Sudan, since this article isn't Politics of South Sudan. This article is about Salva Kiir Mayardit, and should be proportioned relative to that person. If criticism of homosexuality has been a notable element of his career, regardless of whether or not South Sudan cares in the slightest, it should be included in his biography. TechnoSymbiosis (talk) 03:46, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So you removed all of it? How homophobic. Too much of Hitler's article is dedicated to his views on Jews, so you may want to remove all of that as well. 108.71.14.120 (talk) 03:29, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Uh what? —Designate (talk) 05:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All of his views on homosexuality were removed. Why? Why are a country's president's views on homosexuality so irrelevant that they were entirely deleted? 108.71.14.120 (talk) 23:28, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's called undue weight. There are hundreds of sources talking about him, and the article is only five paragraphs long. Until we include the most important points and cite the most important sources, it is unbalanced and misleading to present that one issue as a defining aspect of his biography. This is especially true since the only source listed was a blog for gay African rights, which is not a mainstream reliable source. Additionally, our articles on politicians tend to address biographical facts, accomplishments, and efforts, not personal beliefs they've revealed in an interview. If you would like to write a longer biography that addresses his career, then a summary about his personal beliefs might be included, as long as they've been addressed in major sources. As the article is very short, it's unacceptable to give such major coverage to such a fringe issue. (On a side note, the quotes in the paragraph were not included in the source provided, so that would have to be addressed too.) —Designate (talk) 00:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In short: His views on homosexuality are a small part of his political views, and his political views combined are a small part of his biography. The article needs to be much longer and more thorough before such small things can be presented in the proper context. —Designate (talk) 00:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How is homophobia a fringe issue like Creationism or Flat Earth? As far as only on an African blog, no. It was on RNW: http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/president-kiir-no-place-gays-new-southern-sudan
A sentence is not major coverage either. 108.71.14.120 (talk) 18:08, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Political crisis section[edit]

Political Crisis (as of 5/14/2014) The text of appears to biased against Mayardit, and in favor of his opponent Machir. My limited knowledge is that Mayardit's opponent, Machir, led a military revolt against his fellow revolutionaries 20 years ago, and that his Mayardit dismissal of Macas vice president was constitutional, and that Machir initiated civil war like campaigns. Perhaps the entire paragraph should be excised.

The whole section is written in appalling English not worthy of Wikipedia. This section needs to be rewritten from scratch. werldwayd (talk) 19:16, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Link to resource listing problems about good governance[edit]

https://twitter.com/daniel_van0/status/1707464037578010716 Buckshot06 (talk) 23:30, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He's a president of South Sudan since 2011[edit]

Dr John Garang de Mabior appointed him as a president of South Sudan in 2005. 172.233.211.228 (talk) 19:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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