Talk:Roads in Israel

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Where did the notes go about the highways split by IDF decree? Is this a bug? Suldrew 00:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Materials[edit]

Some relevant articles that I haven't had time to go over:

Road categories[edit]

A suggestion: It would help to specify what freeway and expressway mean in an Israeli context and how they differ. Peter Grey (talk) 05:13, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source or some personal knowledge you could share to help flesh out some of those details a little more? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 05:47, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No. I'm hoping that the contributors who contrasted the terms in the same sentence in the article do. Peter Grey (talk) 01:35, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It appears to have been added by User:Db1944 in January 2007. Unfortunately they've been inactive for over four years... - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 07:36, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I just read (or tried to read) the Google translation of the Hebrew language Wikipedia article and I cannot find any hint of a distinction between freeways and expressways. In my opinion, this is dubious and we should consider deleting the distinction from the English language article. Are there any readers of Hebrew here who can confirm one way or the other? M Carling 08:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings! Google translate is not perfect.
What are termed Freeways/Controlled-access highways in Wikipedia are fully controlled roads using interchanges and/or on-off ramps to service roads for connections to intersecting roads. In Hebrew, such a Freeway is called a Kvish Mahir, literally, Fast Road. Indeed, the Hebrew page uses the term Kvish Mahir. Unfortunately, Google simply and incorrectly translates this into Highway. By the way, a Kvish Mahir is sometimes referred to as a Kvish Memuhlaf (Interchanged Road) in official Ministry of Transport planning documents. This article and its Hebrew counterpart need to be updated. As of 2013, Israel has at least 4 Freeways in their entirety, several more soon-to-be and another 7 which are Freeways along a significant portion of their lengths.I think my count is correct, pending further investigation
What are termed Expressways/Dual Carriageways or Limited-access roads in Wikipedia (two very similar concepts) are high-speed roads which have median divider separation, but have uncontrolled or traffic-light controlled junctions. There are about 35 such roads in Israel, although this number is actually decreasing as some are being converted into full fledged Freeways.
In my opinion, therefore, (the Hebrew version of the page notwithstanding), the distinction between Freeway and Expressway is a valid one to describe two different kinds of high-speed roads. Indeed, the article needs to be updated and mention needs to be included to describe ongoing work to upgrade present expressways to freeway status. --@Efrat (talk) 13:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Efrat! I'm glad I asked! Unfortunately, I won't be able to make these updates because I cannot read the Hebrew sources. I hope you may find the time to do it. M Carling 20:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Road symbol color[edit]

In Roads in Israel#Numbering of the roads, it seems to indicate that blue signs are National Roads, which are one digit; red signs are Inter-City Roads, which are two digits, etc. (Road signs in Israel#Signs giving information also seems to indicate this.) However, some one-digits roads (e.g. Route 1 (Israel)) are displayed in both blue and red. So the color and number of digits must mean different things, in a way that is not explained in this article. --24.130.146.226 (talk) 01:39, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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