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Population reference 1894[edit]

I found one close population reference for 1894. See https://archive.org/details/loversofzion00frierich/page/18/mode/2up on page 9. Not sure if someone wants to add the reference or if it makes sense or not. It is from a published speech from December 1894 and mentioned 400. (in the current text 380 is mentioned which is probably also close and/or true. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|DallyingLlama (talk) 10:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC)]] comment added by DallyingLlama (talk • contribs) 10:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be[edit]

They've had the same mayor for 23 years now? Is that even legal? 70.70.212.72 03:31, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect, I think[edit]

The national anthem of Israel, Hatikvah (The Hope), was written, and the Flag of Israel created, in Rishon LeZion.

i do not believe this statement is correct. the anthem was written by Naftali Imber, in Europe. similarly, the israeli flag was taken from the Zionist Organisation's flag -- also in Europe. if i am wrong, please find a source for this statement.

I can't back myself out with sources, but this is something every Israeli pupil learns in grade school already, when we are taken to the Rishon Lezion Museum in the city. They've always shown us the first "prototype" of the flag or tzitzit, from which the flag was born, and a sheet with the lyrics for Hatikva. If someone can get a better "proof" than this, please do so. Ido50 11:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Climate[edit]

Temperatures in the climate table are most certainly wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.90.21.11 (talk) 20:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What makes you say so? They seem to be quite logical. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 21:05, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You obviously have no idea Ynhockey.. if you think that the temperatures are logical, i feel sorry for you. Definitely wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.17.30 (talk) 01:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First (to|for) Zion[edit]

The article states that Rishon Lezion is First to Zion, while the info box on the right and the beginning of the introduction state that it is First for Zion. Both interpretations are listed twice each, making it four times in the article, which is really redundant. Some must be taken off. And of course, we must come to an agreement whether it is to Zion or for Zion. Please, post your viewes here. Ido50 11:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think First for Zion makes more sense in English. But both as correct in terms of translation. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 09:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree the both are correct in terms of translation, we need to be consistent. I also think First for Zion sounds better. --Ido50 10:32, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Former Arab name ?[edit]

What was Rishon LeZion called before it was bought from the local Palestinians? What was it called on the deeds of purchase? Who was the named seller ?--— ⦿⨦⨀Tumadoireacht ^Talk/_Stalk 09:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a quote from the Rishon Le Zion city homepage [[1]] "Buying the lands of “Ayun Kara”, 850 acres (3340 dunams) of virgin soil on July 31,1882, seventeen courageous Jewish families from Eastern Europe founded their agricultural settlement, Rishon Le-Zion. This differs from the article account . Any thoughts ?--— ⦿⨦⨀Tumadoireacht ^Talk/_Stalk 10:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No offense meant, but my first thought was "who messed with the links?" I can help you fix them, but it's better if you do so since you made the edit and know what each link is referring to. On the issue at hand, I believe the problem now with the history section isn't factual accuracy, but poor wording and style, which makes it quite confusing to the reader. We should look at the whole section again and simply rewrite it. As with the previous thing, I can do this but my time is limited so it might take a while. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 23:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. About Ayun Kara, the information should definitely be mentioned but briefly, just like on Rishon's site. The reason is that back then all land was registered to some locality or other, and some villages had a land area of a small country. This doesn't mean that if something happened in Ayun Kara then it's relevant to Rishon LeZion too. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 23:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Rishon LeZion[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Rishon LeZion's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "cbs-loc":

From Beersheba: "Locality File" (XLS). Israel Central Bureau of Statistics. 2011. Retrieved January 12, 2013.
From Petah Tikva: "Locality File" (XLS). Israel Central Bureau of Statistics. 2012. Retrieved October 30, 2013.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 08:45, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I have corrected the issue. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 10:42, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Climate data wrong?[edit]

Average precipitation in milimeters seems to be wrong. It seems that inches info is close to or correct. Related reference doesn't seem to give the precipitation info. Anyway, mm and inches are currently not correlated. שרשר (talk) 22:01, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Winery and other images[edit]

Like articles for other cities in Israel, I think this article has too many images. I thought the one of the winery was particularly unnecessary (poor quality, not essential) and removed it, but that was reverted without explanation. What is the rationale for putting even more images in the article? I suggest removing the winery image and the 1890s image, as well as some of the newer ones. If certain images are important, there can be a gallery at the end of this or that section. —Ynhockey ^(Talk) 07:46, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]