Talk:Reported Road Casualties Great Britain

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Statement removed pending reference[edit]

Statement moved here from the main article until a reference for it is provided:

The change of name was a response to concerns with the neutrality of the term "accident" in a context where the majority of casualties are stated by police and other sources to be the result of driver negligence.

-- de Facto (talk). 13:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

STATS19[edit]

STATS19 redirects here and is mentioned and indeed linked to in this article, but there is no information on what it is.82.15.254.255 (talk) 16:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have put some STATS19 info into the article. Enjoy EricITOworld (talk) 17:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chart removal[edit]

Discussion moved to File_talk:Killed_on_British_Roads.png. PeterEastern (talk) 18:13, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pending resolution to the discussion on talk page for the chart I have added it back with an adjusted caption to clarify its content. PeterEastern (talk) 18:28, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

UK not Europe data[edit]

The subject of this article is a UK dataset. It does not cover any other country. Presentation of Eurostat data belongs elsewhere in a discussion of European road safety. There is no proper reference to the source of the data which includes several non EU countries. --FDent (talk) 15:47, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Also there is an arbitracy breakpoint in the colours, and the key of "more careful" is unsupported e.g., the less wealthy Eu nations probably have an older vehicle stock with fewer safety features; maximum speeds are lower in the UK than Germany, etc. etc. Mike163 (talk) 16:34, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand everything:
  • If eurostat provides data for UK, in what that data would not concern UK?
  • Why not to compare UK to other nations: some do it [1], [2], [3]
Anyway, I understand that you are not happy with reference.
@Mike163 To editor Mike163: I disagree with Mike163:
  • If there might exist any issue wit color, the Graph:Chart template allows you to correct it very easily.
  • "more careful" might be rewritten as "lower fatalities (rate)", whatever the reason (people, vehicle, whoever drive the other).
  • For speed, UK has speed limit of 48 km/h, 97 km/h and 113 km/h while Germany has speed limit of 30 km/h, 50 km/h, 100 km/h and 130 km/h. This makes a 2 km/h difference and a 17 km/h difference for motorway. The law which makes by increasing speed by 4% or 16% you increase fatalities by 8% or 34% might be true. Anyway, comparing fatalities from different countries allow to compare safety of those different countries, and in fine to see which set of laws and vehicle perform better from each other one. This is why it is necessary to make comparisons!
For regions comparison, I do not see why it would be not relevant. This data is provided by Eurostat for UK at First-level NUTS of the European Union, based on NUTS statistical regions of the United Kingdom; for England, this division matches quite likely the Regions of England since 2003, with names rather similar. Some do it: [4]; [5]; [6]

Reported Road Casualties Great Britain, not road safety in Great-Britain[edit]

This article is about Reported Road Casualties Great Britain (RRCGB), formerly Road Casualties Great Britain (RCGB) and before that Road Accidents Great Britain (RAGB), is the official statistical publication of the UK Department for Transport (DfT) on traffic casualties, fatalities and related road safety data.

For this reason, this article is NOT about road safety in Great-Britain. so, if you want ta add data related to road safety in Great-Britain, you should create an article about road safety in Great-Britain, or better, Road safety in Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.104.227 (talk) 16:44, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Including historical trend information on the numbers of cars on the road along side casualty rates.[edit]

Including information on the numbers of cars on the road on the same graph that shows historical casualty data, would in my opinion be useful. The far lower number of cars on the road at the time of historically much higher casualty rates, would give a clearer overall picture of the very large improvement in road safety and reduction of casualties over time. 87.114.81.207 (talk) 14:42, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]