Talk:Red Hot Chili Peppers discography

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October 14, 2007Featured list candidatePromoted

Cover songs[edit]

Are the songs on the list of cover songs recorded or performed live? Citing where and when these songs were performed would be nice; otherwise I'd suggest deleting the entire list of covers as unverifiable. -- Xinit 18:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


By The Way Sales[edit]

a lot of people say that BTW sell 10 million worldwide, but is not an official data.. i think that it sell near 9 million. - Mediatraffic.de sayu 6.245.000 worlwide..but it take consideration of sales of the album in weekly top 40..so if by the way spent 100000000 weeks at position 41 the sales data of that weeks are not considerated in total sales (6.245.000). - On UKMIX forum there is the biggest Chart&Sales community..this is the page about RHCP chart & Sales http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20740 zagozagozago 3 July 2006

Australia and Other Countries Singles[edit]

Could we please have someone edit the page and add in how the RHCP singles placed in other countries charts. Could they be added into the main singles discography amoung U.S Hot 100 and UK singles under titles such as AUS Singles for example. cheers

Organic Soundball Promo[edit]

Shouldn't it be added to the discography?

American Ghost Dance / Me And My Friends[edit]

Where these actually released as singles?

Despite being a moderate fan of the Chili's for some 12 years, I have never seen in all the discographies viewed over time, any reference to these two songs being released as singles. They are not even mentioned on the official RHCP website.

It would be highly appreciated if someone could confirm the validity of said two tracks actually being released as singles.


Fleafly79 11:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Fair-use on discographies test case[edit]

Please see Talk:The_Beatles_discography#Poll_on_the_use_of_fair-use_images_on_this_page_and_the_interpretation_of_policy which is acting as a test case in this matter. Jooler 09:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Illegal Download Reason?[edit]

I'm not sure if the line providing an explanation for the greater world-wide sales over US sales of "By The Way" is legitimate. The source comes from a group representing the recording industries from around the world. I'm removing it unless other sources for the claim can be provided. StudySage 02:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that S.A. had biggest success isn't only about US, almost in all countries (apart UK and France) S.A. have better chart-run than BTW (Positions and longevity) so the fact that it sold less (7,3 vs almost 9) is caused by illegal dowloads, IFPI resources show an international sales decline of more than 20% from 2002 to 2006 and by the fact that where BTW sold more than S.A (Uk and france),sold A LOT more:
UK = BTW:1,9m SA=800k
FR = BTW 390k SA=200k Zagozagozago 07:19, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if I follow your logic. Are you claiming that main reason Stadium Arcadium is having better chart-runs than By The Way without actually selling more albums is due to the increase in illegal downloading? If so, would it not make more sense to conclude that SA has yet to sell more than BTW simply because SA has not been on the market for nearly as long? Additionally, I have reservations about the objectivity of the IFPI, in that it is a special interest group representing the music industry.128.143.63.72 14:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
isn't only IFPI..we could just looking the average selling of countries where we have "official sales data" how USa,France,Uk,Japan ecc..
second, now we have a lot more information about sales, 4 years ago and more a lot of sales was overstimated and inflated, btw 9m imho is a bit overstimated for the sales info we have.
"would it not make more sense to conclude that SA has yet to sell more than BTW simply because SA has not been on the market for nearly as long?"no, becouse now S.A. sell 100k in 4-5 weeks and continue to fall down and should pass BTW sales already 2-3 month ago if you look chart-runs.

Zagozagozago 22:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As editors it is not up to us to assume anything. There are many things that could cause one album to sell less well than another: trends, competition (albums by other artists released at the same time), promotion, music video exposure, commerical tie-in's are all possible reasons. Assumptions and guessing should not be placed in the articles - a source is needed if you want to analyze why specific albums sold more or less than others. - eo 22:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
no,competition,promotion,music videos,commercial tie-i are out..S.A. was the BEST SELLER of 2006 (and i don't like S.A.) with around 6m at the year-end)..in 2002 a lot of albums sold more than By The Way, at the time there was more than one albums with more of 10m, so isn't a problem of competition or promotion etc.. Zagozagozago 07:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looking at album charts around the world, Stadium Arcadium had an averaging better chart-run and longevity than By the Way. The fact that By the Way has sold more worldwide is because in recent years the musical industry is in crisis and the sales are falling because of illegal downloads reporting a 20% drop compared to 2002 for physical CDs.[1]

There's the note, as I just removed it. There was nothing on the front page of IFPI about this 20% decrease in CD sales, so it's ineffective as a source, anyway. As mentioned above, a drop in the sales of physical CDs can't exclusively be blamed on illegal downloading. For one, legal downloading doesn't sell any physical CDs either; presumably that would go towards a decrease in CD sales. Along with the rest of the reasons, like the stagnation of popular music, etc., which is sure to curb sales, as well. Cheers. - Vague | Rant 05:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That bullet again was placed there. Zag, I'm not sure if I still understand you or your logic. Please stop re-inserting that note unless you can provide additional sources to its validity.StudySage 22:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

isn't difficult to understand. S.A. had more copies in first week, better chart-runs, better longeviiyt, higher position on all Year-end charts,best seller of the year worldwide (BTW was around 10-15..in general S.A. have a biggest success than BTW..why it sold less than BTW??
2 cases, BTW sales are extremely inflated, S.A. sold less for illegal downloading/legal downloading trouble that interst all music industry.

Zagozagozago 18:01, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zag, I'm sorry, but I still do not completely understand your reasoning for two main reasons: One, you're not speaking in complete sentences. And two, you haven't provided any sources that back up your claim. If you were to provide these sources, then I would not have a right to change the page unless I found other sources to discredit yours. However, sense you have not done so, please stop adding your opinion as to the cause of the difference in sales of the last two albums. StudySage 18:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zag, I see you've put that line back, and again with that old site of the IFPI. However, I cannot find anywhere on their site information regarding your claim about the sales of these two albums. Is there a specific article contained in that site to back you up? If so, please modify the link. If not, please stop reinserting this line. StudySage 20:41, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the comparison of that two albums i can't links all the chart-run around the world (30 references?) but about the fall of sales the IFPI link is perfect. on "Statistics" section of the site, there is a part called "Recorded Music Sales", here for every year there is a document about the tendency of sales worldwide.every year they put a % of increase of decrease (from 1999 is+1,2 -5,1 -6 -9,1 -0,9- 3,4 -6) and u could see how much the sales are fall from 2002 and the total is around -20%) and 7,4+20% do more than "less than 9m" of By The Way. Zagozagozago 08:29, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "IFPI".

Portuguese chart[edit]

I've just added information about RHCP's albums in Portugal. SOAD KoRn (talk) 16:59, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to know why portuguese data that I added was eliminated from the article. I believe that reliable information is never too much. SOAD KoRn (talk) 17:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Certifications[edit]

Should we add the certifications for the Red HOt Chili Peppers albums in Australia. I have them here from the ARIA website; Blood Sugar Sex Magik 6*platinum Californication 8*platinum By The Way 5*platinum Stadium Arcadium 3*platinum Greatest Hits 5*platinum Live at Hyde Park platinum (one hot minute was not avaliable) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.251.130 (talk) 07:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've added on the Certifications, but i've had trouble getting the citiations correct where they are listed at the bottom of the page. If anyone could fix those up it would be appreciatedHitthat (talk) 08:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree it is not harmful to add them, but there are space matters to consider. Not every single certification and country can be represented here, as that is simply impossible. NSR77 T 03:59, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the width of the graphs with the album certifications on them there is plenty of space for an extra graph. The existing ones could easily be shortened as well. I don't mind if a country that is more significant in terms of sales is put up their either, but I can't see the harm in having an extra column.Hitthat (talk) 06:47, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have re-added the certifications, shinking the coloumns on the graph to compensate for the added material. You cannot claim that there is space issues to consider anymore; the graph is slightly smaller now.Hitthat (talk) 06:50, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps I did not elaborate enough. By space restrictions I meant that adding the Australian certifications will open to door to every other country's certification, which is impossible to fit into one graph. By adding the Australian certifications one can not deny any other person from coming along and doing just as you did--where does it stop? There needs to be some exclusivity; virtually every Featured discography on Wikipedia has only two country's certifications. NSR77 T 17:54, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I will remove them. Perhaps it would be better to add a graph with certifications for as many different countries as possible on the articles for the albums. Hitthat (talk) 12:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced sales claims[edit]

I've been through album sales figures and checked their sources. Altogether I've removed three unsourced claims, reduced three ones which were claiming higher sales than the sources supporting them and removed the sourced figures for Mothers Milk and ONe HOt MInute as the sources did not contain any mentions of the albums sales. If anyone could supply sourced figures for One hot minute of MOthers Milk it would be realy good, as it is a bit unsightly having their figures missing. Hitthat (talk) 20:53, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you have to ask & Coffee shop[edit]

Did the band really make music videos for those songs, if has, please tell me where i could find them, 'cause i haven't 84.248.39.41 (talk) 12:24, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both have music videos. If You Have To Ask video featured Arik Marshall on guitar and live footage from Lollapalooza 92. Coffee Shop featured live footage from the One Hot Minute tour.

If You Have To Ask: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKdsCzZ5qaM Coffee Shop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pupZJ4pTSh0

Jason1978 (talk) 04:29, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Soundtracks and various benefit/other albums[edit]

I think the discography needs a section for all the soundtrack, tribute albums and various other albums the Peppers have been included on because there are many out there that have contained exclusive songs (such as Love Rollercoaster and I Found Out) and songs that were b'sides but included on soundtracks or benefit albums (Soul To Squeeze, Sikamikanico, How Strong). You also have the Peppers appearence on George Clinton's album. Most band's wiki pages include these types of releases so why not the Peppers? Jason1978 (talk) 20:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

American Ghost Dance[edit]

This song was never a single or a promotional single. Not sure why it keeps getting added too the singles lists. Jason1978 (talk) 01:19, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Waiting 4[edit]

Please stop adding this song to the singles page. It is NOT a RHCP release or Warner Brothers release. It was a remix done by two DJ's and played in clubs. It became a minor club hit and a YouTube video was created but none of this was in any way connected to RHCP. It's like if you or I were to remix a song, make a youtube video of it. Doesn't mean it's connected to the band. Warner Brothers didn't release it, RHCP had no say in it's release and there is a brief mention and chart position on the By the Way single page that someone outside the band remixed it. Jason1978 (talk) 05:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Organic Soundball![edit]

There's an RHCP album titled Organic Soundball! It's a live performance. ...I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the discography. ......?

--— sloth_monkey 09:22, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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