Talk:Range Rover

Rettendon Murders

The Range Rover acheived notoriety in December 1995 when three essex gangsters, Patrick Tate, Anthony Tucker & Craig Rolfe were found executed in an f reg vogue at the end of a farm track in rettenden. http://archive.essexcountystandard.co.uk/2000/4/13/204606.html

The Film Was Also Awesome! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.98.73.212 (talk) 10:09, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

picture

The first picture of the article is of the current Range Rover Sport...which is not the Range Rover that this article focuses on, it should be replaced with a photo of the current Land Rover Range Rover... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.226.111.171 (talk) 09:19, 9 June 2007

You are correct. I changed the infobox photo back to what it was previously. I also removed the "similar" tag from the infobox — it does not exist in the template thus it will never be displayed. —Travis ^C/_T\^U 16:52, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Any pictures really ought to include one of the iconic 1970 model, don't you think? --Matt Whyndham (talk) 14:58, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Such as the second picture on the page at Range Rover#First generation (1970–1996).  Stepho  talk  22:48, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

This one File:Range Rover front 20080331.jpg? That's quite a late Classic from the early '90s, certainly not the "iconic" original (and I'd agree with Matt here). Andy Dingley (talk) 23:23, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

There doesn't appear to be an ideal picture at Commons.

Not bad, but the wheels are wrong

Original, but some sort of kanga-rack obscuring the front (also a stupid combination of spring lift and skateboard tyres)

Bit small and side-on, but probably the best. Maybe crop it?

Andy Dingley (talk) 23:28, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Correction of Article

This article is pretty bad. First and foremost the amero-centric use of SUV. When the RR was developed there was no such term. The term is only used in the U.S. and India, so why use it for an article on a British product? It is an off-road vehicle.

• I don't know where you live in the U.K., but I am also from the United Kingdom and commonly hear "SUV" used. You may be correct that when the RR was invented the term did not exist, but it certainly does now, in many countries of the world. To call it an off road vehicle is much more incorrect, as the Range Rover pioneered the idea of having a 4WD vehicle with high ground clearance, large wheels and robustness mixed with the ability to travel perfectly well on the road - unlike a dedicated off road vehicle, which are usually terrible on standard roads. Mr. Bridger 14:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Even if you want to call it an SUV, why Luxury SUV. There was no luxury involved in the original Range Rover (you could clean it inside and out with a water hose. The term SUV already implies a level of comfort comparable to a normal car/automobile, which the Range Rover did not have!

85.22.2.162 12:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't agree with it being called a SUV, first of all the model is older then the trend itself. Moreover, I believe it has real off road capabilities, which means it's not a SUV...

--arny (talk) 17:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, I simply cannot see how one would make a comment such as this without doing his or her homework (obviously). Please research the Range Rover Classic's history and features thoroughly and then re-read your second paragraph. Many reviews actually compared the Range Rover to normal cars and guess what, the Range Rover won out! It doesn't matter if you call it SUV, 4x4, Four-wheel-drive, Van, Go-Cart, Golden Goose, etc. - the word 'Luxury' MUST precede it. Plasticboob 20 Jun 2007

• It is correct that the interior of the earliest Range Rovers could be hosed down, but the car also contained many luxurious features - more luxurious in some cases than the most luxurious saloon car of the day. My father has owned two classic Range Rovers, the first of which started off fairly standard and was lovely. Even driving it on tarmac was fine, it just cruised along. Perhaps you are trying to compare the Range Rover with luxury cars in production today, which would be a mistake, and compared to these, the Rangie may not seem very luxurious. Mr. Bridger 14:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

• Indeed, take Mercedes-Benz, indisputably a luxury car. A Mercedes S-class from the 1970's looks downright spartan by today's standards. The Rangie has evolved similarly. As for calling it an SUV, I agree that it could not have applied to the original Range Rover since the term simply didn't exist. At that time, a Chevrolet Suburban was a truck, but in the 1990's I guess, it was tossed into the SUV crowd. (These days it seems that almost anything can be called an SUV, anywhere from a station wagon to a minivan to a sports car to this behemoth.) —Travis^talk 14:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

First gen. RR height 70.8?

Hi in this artice it states that the Range Rover Classic RRC (70-95, first generation) has a height of 70.8in I belived that the height is 70in, (Range Rover Repair Operation Manual 1970).

I would be very interested in your source for the stated height. NOT a criticism, if you have documented evidence the height is 70.8 it would help me in raising the legal height of my 1981 RRC.

Downundersteve (22 June 2007)

Terminology Range Rover Classic

as a seperate issue, officially the term Range Rover "classic" was given to the Range Rover with the original body style (first generation) built between 1994 and 1996. This was because the new P38 was built and sold at the same time as the previous model.

To differentiate between the two Land Rover called the old, (but still in production) first generation The “Classic Range Rover” this was reinforced by the addition of a “Range Rover Classic” badge to the rear of the vehicle. 01:20am - 22 June 2007

External Links

Please do not add links that are contrary to guidelines. The external links section should be used for official sites, reviews and sites which contain information that is pertinent to the subject but can't be included for whatever reason. Forums, fansites, personal sites and clubs are not acceptable links due to the fact there is lack of editorial oversight, lack of notability and lack of accessibility in some cases (ie. needing to sign up to enter the site).-Localzuk^(talk) 22:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

parent companies

Maybe it would be better to have those parents in generation boxes, so one can see straight away the owner, i think it gives some good info to reader as it has effect on engines and some other stuff used. --— Typ932^{T | C}  19:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Land Rover/Range Rover timeline would be also handy.... --— Typ932^{T | C}  19:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

RANGE ROVER IS THE BEST VEICULE EVER BORN BUT IT'S SO EXPENSIVE AND I CAN'T BUY IT —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taloyomna (talk • contribs) 12:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism of the Page

Some user named 'NavMan25' has been persistently vandalising the page, with such phrases as 'penis mobile' and of course bigging up the Hummer H2 - can wiki admins please deal with this. Besides, who the hell wants an off road vehicle that has a ghastly interior made of poor quality plastic and is named after a blow job? --Fordsierra4x4 (talk) 22:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

• Actually, the Hummer is derived from the High-Mobility Multipurpose Vehicle (Wheeled), aka the HMMVW or "Humvee". Its name is a reference to that, not a blowjob - but I do agree that the modern variants (the H2 and H3) are ghastly-looking. I much prefer the H1, as it actually looked like a serious transport vehicle and not a giant kid's toy. (Though I wouldn't mind having a Range Rover kitted out like Torchwood's . . . ) --Special Operative MACAVITY^{Debrief me} 14:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

other body styles.

This article seems to completely ignor the 3 door van and wagon versions of the car. Also should it not mention the Range Rover convetable that featured in one of the bond films?(Morcus (talk) 19:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC))

The three-door is considered the "Range Rover Classic", which has its own article. Personally I think this is arranged poorly, and the present article should be renamed in some way with the one entitled just "Range Rover" being a disambig, as happens with things like the Ford Escort, for example. – Kieran T ^(talk) 19:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

AJ-V8

Please can we get this clear - The AJ-V8 engine is not a Ford unit. Ford Modular and AJ-V8 are two totally separate engine families and the Ford V8 has never been used in a production Range Rover. 77.100.16.146 (talk) 21:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Range Rover fire appliance?

I remember in my time in the Royal Air Force that we had a Range Rover based airfield fire appliance, it had a double rear axle to give six wheels and leaned quite markedly on bends when full of water! I have 'Gloster-Saro' in my head. Do we have an article on it? Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 00:49, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

There are a couple of them pictured and described here. 200 gallons of water I learned! Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 01:07, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I remember seeing a camper-van conversion of the Carmichael 6-wheeler in Pembrokeshire during the long hot summer of '76. It was cornering with considerable gusto and it too rolled like a rolly thing on rollers. Mr Larrington (talk) 11:42, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Environmental impact

Is it worth mentioning the Range Rover in context of environmental concerns, something along the lines of criticism of emissions from large high performance vehicles? Regardless of debatable political or environmental agendas, it would seem that this category of vehicles do attract a certain amount of negative publicity, as even Jeremy Clarkson seems to have acknowledged. Could be worth including, even if just a small mention with a link to another Wiki article about climate change debate. Just a thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dead celeb (talk • contribs) 23:36, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, carry on and remember to cite your sources. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 23:42, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok, Ive added a little bit about it at the bottom of the page, with references. Not too much since there is already a separate article about criticism of SUV's. Dead celeb (talk) 11:43, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Pop Culture & Celebrity Owners

I thought the bit that has been added about pop culture was pretty good, perhaps some celebrity owners could be added to this section? I'd do it but I know virtually nothing about celebs and can't be bothered to trawl Google right now. Dead celeb (talk) 18:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

RANGE ROVER VOGUE

front inner bumper parts list for range rover vogue —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.215.91.115 (talk) 10:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Ambulance?

Not far from Larrington Towers lives a white RR, which I think started life as an ambulance. It's got the standard wheelbase of a Mk 1, a high roof and an extended rear overhang which makes it look very odd indeed. Anyone know more? Mr Larrington (talk) 12:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Ambulances, often ex-mil, are pretty common. Extending the rear chassis is easy to do on a Rangie, especially if the roofline is being raised anyway.

It might also have been a fire engine. I know at least one ex-RAF fire engine (with a standard tailgate, not side shutters) that turned up later as a mountain rescue ambulance - the electrics, searchlights and gear racks all came in useful. I think strictly these were classed as "pilot extraction vehicles" - enough fire-fighting capacity to get a crew out, but not enough to stay and fight a fire - they left that to heavier chassis. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:11, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Vogue after 1996

Lexus LX mentions the Range Rover Vogue for 2007 but this article only mentions the Vogue for 1970-1996. Only when I read Range Rover (L322) do I see that the Vogue name continued onwards. I'm not very knowledgeable about Range Rovers, so can someone fix this? Thanks.  Stepho  talk  21:44, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Excesively large infoboxes

The infoboxes seem overly large and overly details for an overview article. It would be better to trim them back. Ie change the detail lists of engines and dimensions to simple ranges, eg 3rd gen length: 194.9-195.9 in. Even better if we removed them altogether? Only the top infobox is helpful here. The rest are more appropriate in the detailed articles on each generation. Comments?  Stepho  talk  13:19, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

My thought is that the main article should have enough information for someone to get basic details and information about the car without having to go to all the sub-articles. The infoboxes could do without long lists of engines, but this is a pretty skimpy article as it is. IFCAR (talk) 05:07, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Fuel consumption

So most of these vehicles are V8 but the article, unless I missed something, doesn't give a ratio as to how much gas any of these vehicles consume according to distance. Can someone provide us with that information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.214.63 (talk) 04:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

This article is only an overview of all Range Rovers. To view fine detail such as economy, look at the 'main article' article for each type that you are interested in. E.g. Range Rover Sport.  Stepho  talk  07:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit-warring to merge TACR2 (Range Rover)

The TACR2 is a rare, but well-known, Rangie variant. There is now edit-warring going on to support an undiscussed merge and blanking of that article. Anyone care to comment? Andy Dingley (talk) 21:51, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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Off-road abilities?

Is it still true, as the lead says, that the Rangie has "extensive off road capabilities"? This has been so reduced in the last few models that it is barely credible any more. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:26, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

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UAE limousine.

Video of UAE president in new limousine released today. https://mobile.twitter.com/Alfzari_AD/status/941972680147898369 --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 10:28, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Same man in a previous version many years ago: https://www.instagram.com/p/BwjxGwLoiYw/ --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 13:12, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Slow motion edit war over size categorisation

There has been a slow motion edit war unfolding on this page as to whether the Range Rover falls into the "mid-size" or "full-size" category. None of these assertions have been sourced and all of them seem to be based on the subjective opinions of editors, and thus likely constitute WP:ORIGINAL research. On top of this, so far as I can tell the "mid-size" and "full-size" descriptors being used are US industry WP:JARGON derived from commercial vehicle size classes, something which is completely irrelevant to this article as the Range Rover is a British passenger car and not an American truck. Please remember that according to WP:ENGVAR this article should be written in British English, and that where possible we should seek to use WP:PLAINENGLISH. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 18:53, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Not all 5th generation engines are listed

The fifth generation also has a 6 cylinder and Diesel engines not mentioned in the article the 4.4 petrol is not the only engine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrjrjrj (talk • contribs) 18:49, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

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