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A fact from Praefectus vigilum appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 May 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that no contemporary source identifies the fire chief of Rome during the Great Fire under Nero?

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The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 20:12, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fire in Rome by Hubert Robert (1785)

... that the praefectus vigilum during the Great Fire of Rome (pictured) under Nero is unknown? Source: Daugherty (1992) p. 235 Jstor "The only Roman official mentioned in the context of firefighting is Ofonius Tigellinus (Tac. Ann. 15.40.3), who at the time was the praefectus praetori"
- ALT1... that the praefectus vigilum commanded seven cohorts of 560 or 1,000 firefighters, each responsible for two regions of Rome? Source: Daugherty (1992) p. 230 Jstor "The cohortes vigilum or vigiles were led by the praefectus vigilum" "Seven tribunes led each of the seven cohorts. These consisted of either 560 or 1000 men" " the City was divided into 14 regions and ... each Cohort seems to have been responsible for two of them."
  - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Passive Seismic Experiment Package

Converted from a redirect by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Praefectus vigilum; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Hi Alessandro57 (talk), review follows: article created 14 April and exceeds minimum length; A few queries on sourcing:
Sorry, not familiar with Roman documents on Wikipedia. Is the way they have been cited here in line with best practice? To a layman it doesn't provide much of a clue where to go to verify the information
What makes https://www.ostia-antica.org/ a reliable source? I couldn't find an "about us" page, I see it mentions the "Parco Archeologico di Ostia Antica" is it produced by them?
You are missing a citation for "The troops received accommodation in the city and were paid from the state treasury"
You have not cited the last 15 entries on the list of prefects

If you could take a look at those points I'll come back to complete the review after. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 06:29, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo, @Dumelow: and thanks for reviewing!

Do you mean primary sources (Suetonius, Tacitus, etc.)? Yes, this is the way: if one want to check them, one usually goes to wikidata or to the author's article, and there one finds the links to the works. If one is in a hurry, with google one usually lands on the right liber.
This website has existed for at least 20 years and contributors are mainly archaeologists working on the excavations in Ostia Antica. The site is extremely professional.
This sentence came from the original translation, so it was unsourced. I researched, integrate it with new info and sourced it.
Also these entries came from another wiki (it) and, as it happens most of the cases there, were unsourced :-(. I could now reference most of them. Regarding the couple without reference, I will search this weekend too, if I won't find anything I will remove them.

That's all for now, Ave atque vale :-) Alex2006 (talk) 13:45, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Alex2006, your comments seem reasonable. If you give me a ping when you're ready I'll come back to finish the review - Dumelow (talk) 21:07, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo, @Dumelow: , I cleaned up the list, everything is referenced now. Moreover, I reorganized the article and added some more info. You can go ahead now. Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 06:21, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good work Alex2006, the hook facts check out to Daugherty (1992), I didn't spot any issues with overly close paraphrasing. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 11:16, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]