Talk:Pop Warner Little Scholars

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Cut and pasted from the organisation's website?[edit]

This page appears to be a direct cut and paste from http://www.popwarner.com/about_us/history.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.27.141.68 (talk) 00:29, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@ACupOfCoffee and Spacecowboy420: OTRS-permission at the top now. (tJosve05a (c) 08:13, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gender Roles in Pop - Warner Little Scholars[edit]

I think it would be wise to discuss the incorporation of social norms and gender roles in the pop-warner organization. It could be interesting to discuss the minority of young females participating in little-league football. Also I think it's important to notice the incorporation of both genders into the organization, whether it be i dancing, cheer leading or football.

MozHoag28 (talk) 03:40, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

post-concussion syndrome, cumulative blows to head, brain safety, etc.?[edit]

Currently, our article only talks about safety from the perspective of the 1950s.(!) Yes, really. And of course a whole lot has been learned since then. Yes, live questions remain, but I think we should include what good information we have, particularly the following news item on a study involving 7- and 8-year-old boys. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 20:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A Hard-Hitting Story: Young Football Players Take Big-League Hits to Head, PBS NewsHour, reporting by Stone Phillips, AIR DATE: April 2, 2012.

“ . . 7- and 8-year-old boys . . ”

“ . . seven of them outfitted with sensors to measure hits to the head . . . a series of 6 accelerometers, a battery and a wireless transmitter . . ”

“ . . Duma says 80g is a big hit in college football. . ”

“ . . But when you start to get into the 30, 40, you start to think that maybe these add up over time. We don't know but that's sort of the cumulative risk of injury. When you talk about acute injury, now you're talking into the 80, 90, 100g range. . ”

“ . . The study recorded 38 impacts of 40g or greater. Significantly, almost every one of those hits happened during practice. . ”

“ . . We saw, for example, six impacts over 80gs.

“STEFAN DUMA: 80gs start to get into the lower range of what we would consider to be a risk of concussion. That's a very high level acceleration, even in the college football you're into the 95th percentile range. We'll see five or six or seven impacts of that level through the whole game. . ”

“ . . Duma explains that because they lack the protective neck and chest muscles of older players, the youngsters are sort of like bobble head dolls. So, as he put it, almost every hit is like a surprise hit. . ”

“ . . GUNNAR BROLINSON [team doctor, Virginia Tech]: The one area where we have, I think, a huge opportunity to reduce the risk of concussion, reduce the risk of head injuries, I think occurs in practice. . ”

see also . . http://stonephillipsreports.com/2012/01/hard-hits-hard-numbers/

Head Impact Exposure in Youth Football, Annals of Biomedical Engineering, RAY W. DANIEL, STEVEN ROWSON, and STEFAN M. DUMA, Center for Injury Biomechanics, Virginia Tech-Wake Forest University, 440 ICTAS Building, Stanger St., Blacksburg, VA 24061, USA, (Received 1 February 2012; accepted 3 February 2012).

“ . . The seven players had an average body mass 31.7 ± 6.44 kg and were all 7 or 8 years old. The players were chosen due to anticipation of high participation in practices and games, as well as playing both offense and defense. Furthermore, these players wore youth medium or youth large sized Riddell Revolution (Elyria, OH) helmets that were compatible with the 6DOF measurement device. . ”

“ . . A total of 38 impacts above 40 g were collected, 29 of which occurred during practices. A total of 6 impacts were collected with linear accelerations above 80 g, with all six occurring in practices. No instrumented players sustained a concussion throughout the season. . ”

“ . . Impacts to the top of the helmet exhibited the greatest magnitudes of linear acceleration, while impacts to the sides of the helmet resulted in the greatest magnitudes of rotational acceleration . . ”

I have added a section to our article. I think I have done a pretty good job summarizing in straight down-the-line fashion. I still have not included the aspect of linear vs. rotational acceleration, and I have still not included Christopher Nowinski's book and references as a source, both of which I want to do. Please jump in and help if you can spare the time. FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 00:44, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Head games: football’s concussion crisis from the NFL to youth leagues, Christopher Nowinski, 2007, page 108, citing both Dr. David Halstead and Dr. Michael Levy to the effect that football helmets do not protect from “rotational acceleration.”


Researchers Employ New Test to Estimate Concussion Risk for Helmets, New York Times, ALAN SCHWARZ, May 10, 2011.

' . . . That data indicates, for example, how a side impact that results in 100 g’s of force reaching the skull leads to a diagnosed concussion 1 percent of the time.

'Helmet models were drop-tested from five heights to assess how much force they allow to reach the skull; the lower that force, the lower the risk of concussion, and the better the helmet scored. The methodology has been peer reviewed and accepted for publication by the Annals of Biomedical Engineering.

'As an example of the use of his system, Duma said, “You can cut your risk of concussion 55 percent by switching from the VSR-4 to the Xenith X1.”

'Critics have cited several limitations of Virginia Tech’s approach. It does not consider rotational forces believed to cause a substantial number of concussions. The data collection from players came through helmets designed by Riddell, perhaps skewing results. Additionally, only some concussions get reported, . . '

New litigation[edit]

When is the proper time to add litigation in progress? Case: 3:15-cv-00057 Document #: 1 Filed: 02/05/15 Comfr (talk) 03:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy[edit]

This section is so horribly written it is shocking. It also is obviously written with a major bias. It literally doesn't even end in a period... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100A:B01D:8ED7:0:30:9697:CB01 (talk) 03:00, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A suggestion[edit]

Does anyone else think it would be an improvement to refer to "the Pop Warner organization" (or something similar) rather than just Pop Warner? I find the current usage somewhat jarring, as there was an actual individual called Pop Warner. --Khajidha (talk) 21:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]