Talk:Peter Brimelow

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1/10/20 Politico story[edit]

How is it disruptive...[edit]

to add the (non-white) in front of immigration in the first paragraph, considering that Brimelow criticized the 1965 immigration act for choking off "immigration from northern and western Europe while selectively opening up US borders to an influx of minorities from Third World countries?" I honestly don't see it as disruptive when it is a true statement based off his stances in white supremacy. Billgogi (talk) 21:47, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's called "original research". Please read WP:OR and come back if you have further questions. Fred Zepelin (talk) 23:33, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The white nationalist/white supremacist label[edit]

Wondering if the white nationalist or white supremacist labels are warranted.

this is poorly cited and highly subjective, I believe it’s also not warranted to be the first descriptor - as a defining characteristic of Peter Brimelow’s career and achievement.

Brimelow fought against that label through lawsuits and though he lost, the conclusion essentially found no malice in accusing someone of being a racist or a white supremacist even if it’s untrue. The expanded anti-SLAPP laws allowed both the Fox News and New York Times to legally lie without being sued.

In VDARE Found. v. The N.Y. Times Co., NY Supreme Coury denied that calling Brimelow a “white nationalist” was done in malice, calling it at worst a “journalistic negligence” and that “the actual malice standard recognizes that falsehoods relating to public figures are inevitable in free debate.”

The court, in consideration of all evidence from both sides concluded that though there is no malice in calling him a white nationalist - it’s basically not illegal to lie.

Oldgreg100 (talk) 22:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you really "wondering"?

The first sentence of the lead has 4 sources, so when you say "poorly cited and highly subjective", it's a little difficult to WP:AGF right off the bat. A look at your talk page and edit history make it extremely difficult. In short, you're going to have to explain exactly what you'd like the lead to say, and justify why you'd like to ignore reliable secondary sources that disagree with your take on Brimelow. Fred Zepelin (talk) 03:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2024[edit]

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Peter Brimelow is not a "white supremacist." This description is totally false and should be eliminated. Only those immersed in the racist woke fantasy world will label him as such. No evidence is provided. To be against illegal immigration is not to be racist. Only those who label others as such deservedly should be called facists/communists themselves, who would gladly send those they disagree with to gas chambers. Noynoynoy (talk) 04:51, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: see WP:V and WP:RS]. Seems pretty well sourced. Cannolis (talk) 05:24, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]