Talk:Patrick Carnes

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Theories and Criticism[edit]

195.128.251.55 17:50, 20 July 2007 (UTC) there should be some critical analysis of his work and controversy over the validity of his approach given sex addiction is not generally recognised in clinical psychiatry as a disorder.[reply]

Sexual Addiction is widely recognized and treated by mental health professionals for people whom their compulsive sexual behavior causes marked distress and impairment in relational and/or social functioning. Many fellowships such as sexaholics anonymous have existed for some time to address the issue of sex addiction.This man and his theories have helped many people get their life back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeahok77 (talk • contribs) 03:37, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The criticism that sex addiction is not a recognized or legitimate disorder should be kept to the sex addiction page. Any debate about sex addiction may be referred to that page, and is inappropriate on a biography page. The theories presented here are a mish-mash of writings from the 80s, Carnes has produced many works since that period and presumably his theories have developed with time. I'm not sure there is even any writing that even qualifies as a Carnes theory. But if so, this page doesn't remotely do an adequate job of presenting them. Taking bits and pieces out of context and then criticizing them is unfair to the readers who come to Wikipedia for accurate information.

neutrality dispute[edit]

I believe that the language in the article is very biased. It sounds like an About Me written by the person. There's a fine line between talking about a person's significance and lauding his accomplishments, but I believe this is on the wrong side of the line. Timaster735 (talk) 08:48, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How so? Are you really concerned about this or are you stating this due to your fundamental opposition to the ideas the author represents? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeahok77 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Taking down neutrality tag. I am an uninvolved editor who has edited / redacted the article of anything I perceive as potentially "on the wrong side of the line." If someone still feels there are issues, please lay out the specific concerns, or make the necessary changes. FeatherPluma (talk) 01:03, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Controversial claims[edit]

This page lacks objectivity, reading, as it does, as a praising biography of Carnes. While it is factually accurate, for the most part, it is incomplete. Characterizing him as a clinician, for example, is almost certainly misleading, at least as regards the sources of his income, most of which comes from books he has written and businesses he has created. Those businesses are clinical in nature, but a clinician makes her/his income primarily from providing clinical services; Carnes's income comes from his entrepreneurship. In this regard, it seems inaccurate to refer to him a clinician without clarifying his relationship to the businesses he has created.

One further book by P. Carnes to possibly list[edit]

SEXUAL ANOREXIA Overcoming Sexual Self-Hatred PATRICK CARNES, Ph.D. Author of OUT OF THE SHADOWS and CONTRARY TO LOVE with Joseph M. Moriarity Lodidol (talk) 19:43, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]