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American Pale Ale[edit]

American Pale Ale should not be called the "most recognized, widespread and successful American beer style". No way that is true. I've traveled extensively and I can say without a doubt that as far as American beers in other countries, you're ten times more likely to find a Budweiser than a Sierra Nevada. Lagers are the most recognized, widespread, and successful. If you ask any random person around the world to name a lager. More often than not, they'll say Budweiser. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thanatopsy (talkcontribs) 03:12, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would tend to agree that that is (sadly) the case. I can't see the exact quotation this statement was based on since it is a copyrighted Google Book, but I would think it is likely just based on the personal opinion of the author of the cited book. However until a source is provided that includes statistics to back up such a claim, I think it best to remove it. By the way your deletion messed up the reference, but it has been fixed. Cheers. --Saddhiyama (talk) 09:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lager is not an American beer style. It's a German style, and the American Budweiser company was formed by a German. American Pale Ale, however, is a genuine American beer style, developed in America by an American company. SilkTork (talk) 21:22, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Ale" versus "beer"[edit]

This article suffers badly from the failure to recognise that in the 17th and 18th centuries "ale" was still a different drink to beer. I can't correct that, because my source is my own original research (see here). Thus "Pale ale was a term used for beers made from malt dried with coke" is wrong. It is also wrong to say "Coke had been first used for roasting malt in 1642" and "it wasn't until around 1703 that the term 'pale ale' was first used" - however, again, my source is my own original research, see here Zythophile (talk) 05:05, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Martyn, your linked research supports the quotes in your comment. Could you explain further? SilkTork (talk) 21:26, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this a [sic]?[edit]

The word "blond" is an English adjective. The word "blonde" is an English noun, referring to a blond female. Before making a "correction" to the text, I took a look around for references to "blond/blonde ale", and it seems to be the convention to say "blonde ale". Therefore, rather than changing the text to read "blond ale", I decided to make it "blonde [sic] ale". TomS TDotO (talk) 12:58, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Blonde" is an adjective, too, as an alternative form of "blond". See the Oxford Dictionaries definition. Jon C. 13:55, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A possible reason for using blonde-with-an-e is that it is the adjective used in French, since both biere and cervoise (ale) are feminine. 1Z (talk) 15:32, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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