Talk:Padma Purana

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@Capankajsmilyo: What is the value added to this article, with the template you newly created? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 02:32, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Section needs clarification as to placement

This article had a clarification note attached to it because a portion was confusing. This part was in the article that I am not certain if it is part of Bengal as the appendix or is part of west Indian as the sixth book. Can someone with more in the know figure it out:

" The last part, called Uttara khanda, contains legends and mythology associated with Indian festivals, eighteen chapters called as Gita Mahatmya, followed by chapters of Bhagavata Mahatmya and Shiva Gita, discussion of soul and liberation, quotes from the Upanishads, Yoga and the Advaita Vedanta doctrines. The text, in some versions of the manuscripts, ends with Kriya-yogasara which is a discussion of ethics and hospitality to guests. "

Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 14:22, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

References

The clarification note is for a paragraph in the main article, and your edits extended to numerous sections. We need to stick to what the source is stating, and not introduce WP:OR. Do you have a copy of the Ludo Rocher book, so we can discuss your proposed changes line by line? Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 14:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Everything that I included was in the original article text so I am unable to understand how OR would work into this article that clearly had a note that it needed clarification. The notes for each section that were moved moved with the text. If you feel that how the article is now is how it should be verses what I wrote I cannot help you. I hope that you corrected the misspelling that was cause for me to come upon the article.Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 01:06, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

I have clarified the tagged part and moved it into a separate section. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 01:16, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Missing Bengali Edition in Padma Purana Shristi Khand, east or Bengal region.

In the Padma Purana article's history section, the Bengali edition and chapters plus book are mentioned to be missing. As per the line in the article:

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"One major recension, traced to Bengal region, has five Khandas (Parts, Books) and an appendix, but has neither been published nor translated. The second major different recension, traced to western region of India, has six Khandas, is the adopted and oft-studied version since the colonial British India era. The Bengal edition is older. The Bengal edition is notable in that the 39 chapters on Dharma-sastra are missing from the Sristikhanda book, in all versions of its manuscripts."

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However, we assume that the missing 39 chapters of the 280 pages, approximately 2400 Shlokes/Verses of the Dharma-Sastra within the Sristikhand have been found. And have been preserved by a family in West Bengal, India, for approximately 200 years. Details are given within this link.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16UZmhVjPqK8ejubSvHhJlJCaqa7Ki3WY/view?usp=share_link

The link says that the Missing chapters from the Bengal region have been within the possession of the Dhar Family, for at least 200 years, and is currently in the possession of the family's current generations. The link also contains multiple pages plus images of the original book.

We believe that the images and pages provided within the link are indeed the missing chapters plus book that were mentioned in the article. We request expert opinion from the forum regarding this.

If there are any further queries, feel free to direct them to [email protected] Santanu Dhar103.105.176.179 (talk) 15:41, 30 November 2022 (UTC) 103.105.176.179 (talk) 15:31, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

I would advise further contact with the Dhar family. As it may help in finally finding and bringing closure to the missing parts of the Bengali edition. This could be a great discovery in the preservation of Hindu Culture. 103.105.176.179 (talk) 13:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@103.105.176.179 I have seen the Book & it has been preserved by Dhar family since 200 years. This book contains very important and rare historical & mythological information. Rahuldhar123 (talk) 08:51, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@103.105.176.179 I have seen the Book. It's a valuable book. It will have an impact to our Ancient History, also Hindu Culture. Now Dhar family is the Owner of it. It has been preserved by them since 200 years. The Book contains are very unique (which is missing since Ancient time). So, It will be a great discovery. Debanik789 (talk) 09:47, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@103.105.176.179 i have seen the book & it's an important book . Sourodeep baral (talk) 05:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

@103.105.176.179 I have read the book, & the is book is, very rare & I think that this book is very important for all of us. thank you. Pankaj kumar baral (talk) 16:26, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

I have seen the book, the images provided in the PDF are indeed real. For further contact, please do contact the info provided. AnamikaDhar (talk) 17:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

I too have seen the book. The overall look of the book does indicate its age which lines up with what is given in the article. According to the members of the Dhar family, segments of the book have been read to them by a member of the family at least once per month. This further cements it's existence if such a dedicated following exists. This has extreme historical significance, it's rarity is further amplified if it isn't even mentioned on Wikipedia. This is quite possibly a holy grail in the preservation of Hindu culture. Mahavir Gaur (talk) 09:02, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

As shown and mentioned in previous comments and in the PDF. There is certainly undeniable proof that the book does indeed exist. Keep in mind that for 200 years, maybe even more, the book has been lost. I believe this should be looked into and certainly brought into the light by Wikipedia, after all, if the purposes of wikis and archives such as this are to be preservation and more importantly up-to-date information on any and all topics (especially something such as preservation of culture), I think this should be given more attention and given more considerable thought to by Wikipedia. Anubhav449 (talk) 08:59, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Declined: This needs WP:RS. Wikipedia is not the right vehicle to make some fact known, see WP:OR. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:21, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Other Texts With Same Title

The article states "Several purana-like texts of other Indian religions such as Jainism and Buddhism are also known as Padma Purana". Actually all the books mentioned there are Jain books. I am not aware of a Buddhist text with the same name. Dharmakirti mentioned there was actually a Jain Bhattaraka, and not the Dharmakirti of Nalanda.

Note that Padma in Jain tradition implies Rama.

Malaiya (talk) 08:31, 26 December 2022 (UTC)