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A fact from PSA (song) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 February 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that SZA said her label insisted on scrapping a song from her second album, even though they had used it to promote the album?

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https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/57968/1/rick-braukis-is-the-firestarter-cooking-up-chemical-fx-for-sza
Hiatt, Brian (January 29, 2023). "The Making of SZA's SOS". Rolling Stone Music Now (Podcast). Archived from the original on January 29, 2023. Retrieved April 11, 2024.

Album parameter in infobox[edit]

The infobox used to read "from the album Lana" with a caveat for the 5 Jan release date that it was only for the website-exclusive edition. It has since been changed to remove that caveat, which implies that is the main release date. The infobox now reads "from the album SOS and Lana" as well.

So SZA as we know is very confusing when it comes to releasing songs/singles/albums/etc. With that, we should discuss what we ought to put in the album parameter for the infobox - SOS or Lana?

On one hand, "PSA" was used in promotion of SOS, although it's unclear if it was a promotional single in the by-the-books sense since all this song got is a YouTube-exclusive teaser, though the teaser version was included in a website-exclusive edition. On the other hand...that version is abridged, and the entire version of "PSA" is meant for Lana after it was scrapped from the album.

Pinging @Flabshoe1 who made the date change to the infobox, as well as other people who have edited articles related to this one @Gained @Karatment ‍ Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 09:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From what I remember, I only added a short description to the article simply because the auto generated one was "0000 song by SZA", which was obviously confusing. I was completely unaware for the change it might have brought to this article and I apologize if I did something wrong @Your Power. Gained (talk) 10:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the website-exclusive release is still a release and should be considered its release date as such. The article text can explain the details of its release. Now I also think the associated album should just be referred to as Lana, because that encompasses SOS too - Lana is a reissue of SOS.Flabshoe1 (talk) 14:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Flabshoe1: again, I am hesitant with including the TDE-exclusive release date as the main release date. If we use only Lana for the album parameter, then it makes no sense to make January 5, 2023, the sole release date in the infobox (or at least the main one). It implies that Lana was released on 2023 (we follow the logic that non-singles are released the same date as the album), which is patently false. One could also make the argument that the release date on the infobox should be for the most relevant version of the song: the TDE-exclusive version of "PSA" received relatively little coverage in RS compared to the amount of RS discussing the inclusion of "PSA" in Lana. ‍ Elias 🪐 (dreaming of Saturn; talk here) 14:44, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the concern with implying Lana was released in 2023. In this case, the header could be "from the album Lana" and a footnote could be added to the release date explaining that it was released for the website-exclusive edition of SOS before being released to streaming in Lana. Flabshoe1 (talk) 14:48, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]