Talk:Octopus's Garden

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did ringo play the piano on this song?

No. In The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions, page 180 of the paperback edition, Lewisohn states that Paul played the piano as an overdub. Dr oboogie 02:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Disney On Ice

I recently went to disney on ice and it was a production of "Finding Nemo" a (very cheezy) cover version of this was in it as well as a big brass band version of Yellow Submarine —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.68.225.139 (talk) 21:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Profound?

>>It is sometimes seen as being a song for children, like "Yellow Submarine" or "Rocky Raccoon," though the latter is also seen as a profound piece on redemption. <<

Is Rocky Raccoon regarded as a profound piece on redemption? It's not an opinion I've ever heard. "A faintly amusing squib" is the only piece of criticism I've ever read about it.213.131.238.25 15:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Dermot

I've heard that "Octopus's Garden" refers to female pubic hairs.... //// Pacific PanDeist * 01:30, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Backing vocals

I'm pretty sure John and Paul did backing vocals on this song, not Paul and George. To my ear it sounds like John. I also recall reading in The Beatles Anthology book that John and Paul put their vocals through a Leslie speaker. These websites also say that John and Paul were the backing vocalists. Anybody have a copy of Lewisohn to verify who they are? [1] [2]

I just updated the credits, retaining Paul and George on backing vocals. I added a cite to a reliable, verifiable source, Ian MacDonald's Revolution in the Head. Regarding your two specific comments:

• It could be John and Paul on backign vocal, but it sounds like Paul and George to me. More importantly, it doesn't matter what we think we hear. It only matters what reliable, verifiable evidence we can find, and our own ears don't qualify (they are WP:OR). Neither of the two links you supplied strike me as reliable evidence, especially compared to a commercially published book by a reputable author (Revolution in the Head by MacDonald).
• It doesn't sound like a Leslie to me; I think you'd hear more of the "whoosh" effect that occurs because of the spinning speaker. Again, it doesn't matter what we hear, it matters what evidence we can find. MacDonald didn't mention Leslie speakers at all, but Mark Lewisohn says George's lead guitar was played through a Leslie (pg 174 of Sessions).

— John Cardinal (talk) 13:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I really doubt that's Ringo playing the piano, either. Where is that reference from? Airproofing (talk) 01:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

 the isolated vocals are available on youtube no evidence of lennons involvement at all, geoff emoricks book also maintains lennon was absent for all the overdubs on the song including the backing vocals  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.101.87.184 (talk) 11:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC) 

Ringo, Harrison, and Octopus

While checking the recent change where an editor deleted the part about Harrison cowriting it, I found this charming video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btkOTnrgmz8

It doesn't quite show Harrison cowriting it, but I thought it was worth sharing. I suspect that the Beatles often helped each other with songs, but at a level that wouldn't be considered cowriting. I agree with the recent deletion of the unsourced remark about Harrison cowriting it.

Here's what Harrison said.[3]

“Octopus’s Garden” is Ringo’s song. It’s only the second song Ringo wrote, and it’s lovely. Ringo gets bored playing the drums, and at home he plays a bit of piano, but he only knows about three chords. He knows about the same on guitar. I think it’s a really great song, because on the surface, it just like a daft kids’ song, but the lyrics are great. For me, you know, I find very deep meaning in the lyrics, which Ringo probably doesn’t see, but all the thing like ‘resting our head on the sea bed’ and ‘We’ll be warm beneath the storm’ which is really great, you know. Because it’s like this level is a storm, and if you get sort of deep in your consciousness, it’s very peaceful. So Ringo’s writing his cosmic songs without noticing.

--Bob K31416 (talk) 13:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

"Love" Version

Okay. What the heck is this:

"On the album for the Cirque du Soleil production Love, which features re-imagined and re-interpreted Beatles songs, "Octopus's Garden" is track 16. It begins with the dropped key music from "Good Night," (it is in E major, instead of its original G major), some chords from "Good Night," an occasional, minute sound from "Tomorrow Never Knows," the grinding noise from "All Together Now," and slowed down lyrics from "Octopus's Garden". It then speeds up with the actual music from the song after a drum fill from "Lovely Rita". Background noise from the song "Yellow Submarine," some xylophone chords from "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill," and the background acoustic guitar with some percussion from "Polythene Pam" can be heard. A few small random shouts from "Revolution 9" can be heard along with the "Yellow Submarine" background talking. Other noises can be heard including Lennon saying things like, "Sensational!" during the guitar solo. At the end, some of the guitar ladder chords from "Helter Skelter" play behind the vocals before moving to music from "Sun King" mixed with the wave noises from "Yellow Submarine." This leads into the track 17, "Lady Madonna"."

This has to do with the Beatles song here... how? Shameless, wholly unreferenced original research, totally unrelated to this page. Am I wrong here??!! Sorry, it's been a long couple of days... Doc9871 (talk) 10:17, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Lennon vocals

Lennon sang backups on this song. Especially the router to Ringo's verses "right beneath the ocean waves" and "ahhhahhh". He should get credit here.dnsla23 08:06, 4 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dnsla (talk • contribs)

Children's song

("The song, which contains the lyrics "Oh what joy for every girl and boy/Knowing they're happy and they're safe," is sometimes thought of as being a song for children, like "Yellow Submarine", "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill" or "All Together Now".") I always thought of "Doctor Robert" as a possible children's song, but I guess it must be irrevelant to say that. C.Syde (talk | contribs) 06:46, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Genre consensus

I would like to add the pop rock genre to the info box genre parameter as I have found a reliable source to cite this addition.

I strongly disagree with the country rock genre as it much more of an influence and the AllMusic source does not explicitly label the song as country rock; "Written in his rather charming country style". The country genre would be a much more appropriate addition. The Beatles being a band playing rock music and the source provided stating that the song is in a country style does not mean it is a country rock song.

Also, I would like evidence as to where it states that "genre changes on Beatles music requires consensus, even if you have a source".

Reference for pop rock: Terence J. O'Grady (1 May 1983). The Beatles, a musical evolution. Twayne. p. 160. ISBN 978-0-8057-9453-3. Thanks. --Mistymountain546 (talk) 19:36, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

The need for consensus is noted in a hidden comment in the infobox for the album (Abbey Road) and other albums, as well as infobox for The Beatles. This has been the norm for Beatles music for many years. Note that I am not disagreeing with your genre choice, just pointing out the need for consensus. Sundayclose (talk) 19:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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"In popular culture"

As opposed to ...? Wegesrand (talk) 20:30, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

That header is commonly used in articles. It's a code word for trivia. I make a point of deleting items that aren't well sourced. Sections like this are a crap magnet. Sundayclose (talk) 20:34, 7 March 2020 (UTC)