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A great man - a hero - I'm disappointed to find this page with no photo. Surely there exists a public domain photo to honour this man on the world stage.Kiwifilm 20:03, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

added the link http://www.primeminister.govt.nz/oldpms/1972kirk.html - there's a photo there Kiwifilm 20:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

THE Real Story------

September, 1974: According to CIA sources,Former New Zealand Prime Minster 1969-1974 Norman Kirk was killed by the Trilateralists using Sodium Morphate. Rowling's first act as NZ Prime Minister was to withdraw Kirk's Anti-Monopoly Bill and the Petroleum Amendment Bill.

Later, Rowling was to be rewarded with ambassadorship to Washington. Incidentally, the Shah of Iran was murdered the same way as Kirk on his arrival in the US.

Whitlam and Kirk

Mid-1974: Gough Whitlam and Norman Kirk begin a series of moves absolutely against the Mafia Trilateralists. Whitlam refuses to waive restrictions on overseas borrowings to finance Alwest Aluminium Consortium of Rupert Murdoch, BHP and R.J. Reynolds. Whitlam had also ended Vietnam War support, blocked uranium mining and wanted more control over US secret spy bases - e.g. Pine Gap.

Kirk had introduced a new, tough Anti-Monopoly Bill and had tried to redistribute income from big companies to the labour force through price regulation and a wages policy.

Kirk had also rejected plans to build a second aluminium smelter near Dunedin and was preparing the Petroleum Amendment Bill to give more control over New Zealand oil resources.

Kirk had found out that Hunt Petroleum, drilling in the Great South Basin, had discovered a huge resource of oil comparable in size to the North Sea or Alaskan North Slope. Gas reserves alone now estimated at 30 times bigger than Kapuni and oil reserves of at least 20 billion barrels - enough for New Zealand to be self-sufficient for years. Oil companies completely hushed up these facts. To have announced a vast new oil source would probably mean a decline in world oil prices, which would not have allowed OPEC and Onassis plans for the Arabs to eventuate. N.Z. could be exploited at a later date, particularly since the North Sea operations were about to come on stream - Kirk was the last to hold out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.223.194 (talk) 09:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are we supposed to comment on this lunacy? Do Americans assassinate all leaders of countries which discover oil! Kirk was unwell for years. My uncle worked with him on the Auckland ferries and knew him well. He died of natural causes, as did the Shah.

"Storm"[edit]

To state that Lady Kirk "created a storm" by becoming patron of SPUC is inappropriate. The term is too colloquial - "attracted criticism" might be better way of saying it. However was she widely criticized at all?Royalcourtier (talk) 06:01, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comments[edit]

There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.

The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ruth Kirk[edit]

Ruth Kirk currently re-directs to the American politician Ruth M. Kirk. A suitable disambiguation is needed to distinguish her and Dame Ruth Kirk. Paora (talk) 09:36, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Have another look :) Schwede 66 09:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent! Paora (talk) 10:03, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Separation of death as a heading[edit]

It's common practice to have health and death under its own heading, I suggest one for this article. It is currently interspersed with his political career which is irrelevant, and detracts from the heading's intention, it should be separated. NZVortex (talk) 09:15, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Be bold and change it. Schwede 66 18:11, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Norm Kirk's Quote[edit]

"There are four things that matter to people: They have somewhere to live, they have to have food to eat, they have to have clothing to wear, and they have to have something to hope for."

I know this because he said this words to me when I interviewed him for the New Zealand Broadcasting Corporation when he was Leader of the Opposition in 1969.

I used them in the Inquiry documentary which you can see here;

https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/inquiry---the-late-mr-norman-kirk. You can hear Norm saying the words at 10minutes 27 seconds. (You can also see and hear me.)

Ngaioboy (talk) 09:12, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]