A fact from Nicolas Joel appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 August 2019 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Gerda Arendt do we have a source for the dob? I didn't see it in source 1 or 2. --valereee (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh. How would I know? I didn't translate. I never believe that a person has a different DOB in French than in English. Will check. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So I addedit to the article, only to find that it was already there ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"cycle's centenary" vs. "centenary of the Bayreuth festival"[edit]
Gerda Arendt Article says In 1976, Patrice Chéreau brought him in as assistant for the production of the Jahrhundertring for the centenary of the Bayreuth Festival. Which sounds to me like it's the centenary of the festival?
Hook says that Nicolas Joel, general manager of the Paris Opera from 2009 to 2014, directed Wagner's Ring in 1979 after having assisted Patrice Chéreau for the cycle's centenary? Which sounds to me like it was the centenary of the opera?
It's the same thing. The first Bayreuth Festival was the first performance of the Cycle. I chose the second for brevity's sake and to avoid repetition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:08, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to not have to repeat that rather common knowledge in this specific director's article. See Der Ring des Nibelungen ("The first performance as a cycle opened the first Bayreuth Festival in 1876, beginning with Das Rheingold on 13 August and ending with Götterdämmerung on 17 August."), Bayreuth Festival, and Jahrhundertring. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
ps: it's not "an opera", firstly because it's four stage works on four days, around 20 hours, secondly because Wagner hated to call them "opera" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, I see. you know, since the article calls it Jahrhundertring in that same sentence, and the hook links to that article, I think it's probably fine. --valereee (talk) 16:25, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Guess what, the hook said Jahrhundertring originally without a pipe ;) - It was a pictured DYK once, made the stats, I even received a talk page comment of thanks (very rare), - but no, we have to appeal to the average reader, and it's deemed too German for him or her. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:34, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Speaking as someone who never studied German at all, jahrhundertring was not a difficult word to figure out. You Germans and your long descriptive words that in English would be entire phrases lol --valereee (talk) 18:10, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
