Talk:New England Central Railroad

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Type[edit]

Is this a passenger or freight railroad? -- Beland 02:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NECR itself owns the tracks and runs freight service. Amtrak also runs the Vermonter passenger service partly over NECR tracks. --Delirium (talk) 06:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Philadelphia, Bethlehem and New England Railroad[edit]

The article, almost since its creation, has claimed that the successor to the NECR is the Philadelphia, Bethlehem and New England Railroad. As far as I can tell, the PBNR is now Keystone Railroad Inc (see [1]) which operates solely in the state of Pennsylvania. The NECR is owned by Genesee & Wyoming which is a separate company from Keystone. Also the NECR is still operating under that name and hasn't been succeeded? Can anyone find good sources to clear this up? Thanks, Laplorfill (talk) 20:24, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, that navbox is merely for the "Short Line Railroad of the Year" award; the CV being the previous winner is by coincidence. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:29, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that, I totally misread the meaning of the navbox. Now it makes perfect sense. I've reverted back to your version. Apologies. Laplorfill (talk) 02:15, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Passed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:48, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 04:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. It is reasonably well written.
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    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
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    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
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  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
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  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
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There are some areas that are thin in references. Would newspaper coverage also help beef this up in places? I sure wish IABot was running right now, too. 7-day hold to Trainsandotherthings. I do want to see some meat added to the bones here if that can be done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copy changes[edit]

Lead[edit]

  • The company was originally a subsidiary of holding company RailTex, before being purchased by RailAmerica in 2000. Remove comma

History[edit]

  • first the Grand Trunk Railway, and from 1927 the Canadian National Railway (CN) I'd get rid of that comma
  • transition complete three days later completed?
    Fine by me. Changed as suggested. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Within a year of NECR's takeover of the line declining traffic flow was reversed, Add comma after "line"
  • Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad EMD GP38s although Add comma after GP38s
    Comma added. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • six mile Hyphenate/use {{convert}}
  • The Genesee & Wyoming ownership (2012–present) section has two paragraphs with no citations at all. This must be rectified.
    Ah, I see what happened. The P&W purchase is cited later, but I missed citing it at that location. Now addressed. I didn't rewrite this article as much as I usually do with my GANs, and that seems to be the source of most issues. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I feel that; it's happened to me with a handful of pages. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:56, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Operations[edit]

Passenger services[edit]

  • on time performance On time should be hyphenated as adjective
    I've removed the sentence in question when I changed the source used, so this is now moot. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 03:30, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing and spot checks[edit]

Earwig turns up no issues other than a railfan site that seems to have taken our paragraphs and chopped some of them up for a summary of railroad history.

Five sources were chosen for spot checks:

  • 2: Offline source in an RS.
  • 9: This link is now dead, but archived. Start of $70m, ARIRA-funded speed improvements. checkY
  • 16: Source checks out. Since I'm not familiar, what makes this site reliable? I see "we"...was the original content ABOUTSELF?
    The source in question is an advocacy group for rail transportation in Vermont. The particular writing here was submitted by NECR, making it a valid instance of ABOUTSELF. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • 17: I don't see a mention of Northfield here, but I'm not a foamer. What makes this back up the assertion?
    This relates to the 2014 rerouting of the Vermonter from the NECR at Palmer to the Pan Am Railways line north of Springfield, Massachusetts. The PAR line north from Springfield meets the NECR in Northfield, though Pan Am has trackage rights to Brattleboro where there's a yard available for interchange. This alignment was previously used until 1989, when Pan Am (then known as Guilford) let the tracks deteriorate so badly they were unsafe for passenger trains. Using the NECR was an out of the way alignment and required the train to make a reverse move at Palmer, so with state and federal funding, the Pan Am line was improved and the Vermonter returned to that alignment. In any case, Solomon's 2020 article in Trains Magazine explicitly states the connection is in Northfield, so I've added it here as a second citation. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • 18: Dead link. (I'm familiar with the topic having reviewed Ethan Allen Express, so this checks out, but another source link might be required.)
    I've replaced this with a citation that discusses the track repairs and improvements in detail. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 03:29, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Other items[edit]

  • Four libre licensed images, but none have alt text.
    Alt text added. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 03:33, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Sammi Brie: Are there any areas in particular you are looking for more coverage? If you identify them I can narrow my searching. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:33, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the coverage has been improved enough at this point. With the other changes all made, I will be passing it. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:47, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

New England Central Railroad acquires modern General Electric locomotives, readding of roster section?[edit]

New England Central, under Genesee & Wyoming Industries has completed the acquisition of multiple General Electric locomotives. NECR is one of nine railroads to receive the GE power[1]. It is unknown on what fate the SD40s have but it is assumed they're being sold or repositioned. The C40s have already arrived and are awaiting the paint booth after GWI completes the repainting of QGRY SD70MACs at St. Albans. Also, there once was a roster table that had all of the units, any idea of what happened to it? Should it be readded? JayfromVT (talk) 13:37, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If, and only if, it can be reliably sourced. I have not been able to track down a comprehensive roster from a reliable source. What we can do is add a mention to the locomotives section of the recent purchase. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Guss, Chris. "Genesee & Wyoming upgrade fleet". Trains Magazine. Kalmbach Publishing. Retrieved 15 November 2023.

Northfield junction[edit]

The article says the Vermonter is routed along the NECR north of Northfield, Massachusetts. Satellite photos show a junction (presumably with the Connecticut River Line) just south of the Vermont border. It looks like this junction is missing from the route map, and should be added between Millers Falls, Massachusetts and Brattleboro, Vermont? -- Beland (talk) 02:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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