Talk:Neil Innes

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Song for MP Light Entertainment War[edit]

Wasn't the name of the song When does a dream begin, not where? Fkh82 23:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How odd[edit]

Considering what a cult figure Innes is, you'd think this entry would be better written. --62.255.236.92 01:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hunting Tigers![edit]

No! No! No! Innes did not write this song. It is a genuine old music hall number credited to (Evans/Damerell/Hargreaves). The Bonzos used to trawl the markets for old 75s and then do camped up versions - this is how they started off before writing their own songs. Other favourites include Jolity Farm, My Brother Makes the Noises for the Movies and Ali Baba's Camel.

I've removed the section referring to the song as an Innes original - what a pity you chose this one to hang so much of your analysis on!

I've also changed "early 1970s" to "1960s" which is more accurate here. But this is a ramshackle page! Commas everywhere! 86.20.55.243 08:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)Graeme[reply]

Secret Policeman's Ball[edit]

You meant 78s. More importantly, Neil was on at least one of the Secret Policeman's Ball albums. (I only have the 1979 one.) Let's see how long it takes me to think up the best way to mention that in the article. His The World isn't on here either. Don't worry, kids; I'll be back. IanHistor 10:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interview[edit]

Hello,

I did a very recent interview with Neil Innes- can I add it to external links? No advertising, I can just upload it somewhere. He doesn't interview often. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Razamatazz (talk • contribs) 02:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC).Razamatazz[reply]

"I've suffered for my music. Now it's your turn."[edit]

I've also heard this quote in a video by the Legendary Stardust Cowboy, but I don't know who took it from whom. If anyone can help... --Gorpik 15:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]


It's hard to say , when Neil started using the phrase. But the first recorded version I can think of is on the "Monty Python:Live At City Center" album , where he uses it as an introduction to "Protest Song". Those shows were in April of 1976. But , it's quite possible he was using it back in the Bonzo days ... he still uses it to date. Harvey J Satan (talk) 23:58, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Douglas Adams quote[edit]

Just heard Neil Innes on the radio mentioning a certain well known band. Someone asked if they were 'as good as the Beatles'. Douglas Adams replied, 'as good as the Beatles! - they're not even as good as the Rutles!' Ian Dunster (talk) 13:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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No Liberty Bell For Innes[edit]

Whereas Neil was involved in the last series of "Monty Python" , he has stated a few times at live performance Q&A sessions , that he is NOT the one playing the "Liberty Bell March" on guitar during the closing credits of the final show. ( He suspects , if it was anybody , that it was Eric Idle. )Harvey J Satan (talk) 00:14, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Inappropriate Americanism[edit]

In the 'Early Life' section it says, "where he majored in drama". The UK education system does not have the concept of 'majoring'. This is because UK degrees are more specialised than American degrees; typically a single subject is studied, or two subjects to an equal level (known as a joint degree). Some degrees include subsidiary or ancillary subjects, which are studied in the first year, but these are not usually mentioned when the degree itself is described. I will amend the text with a more appropriate wording. Urselius (talk) 07:53, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A Little More In-Depth Monty Python Association ...[edit]

Although it is touched upon in the main article , Neil's Monty Python work is much more than noted.

For example ,

on film:

  • "Holy Grail" - he is the 1st "self destructive monk" , the man with a duck in the "witch burning" scenes , a singing knight at Camelot ( most notable the one miming , "I Have To Push The Pram-a-lot!" ) , Galahad's page that gets crushed by the cow and wooden rabbit , Sir Robin's annoying minstrel friend , and the knight wearing the tunic with a fish on it. ( Most notably seen during the Castle Anthrax and Tim the Enchanter scenes. Several off-camera photos show him in the outfit. ) Besides co-writing "Knights of the Round Table" & "Brave Sir Robin" , he wrote some of the soundtrack music - the pieces not from the DeWolfe vaults - and plays the cinema organ piece heard during the "Intermission" and as the exit music.
  • "Life Of Brian"- the "weedy Sumarian" at the Coliseum , whom causes the gladiator to have a fatal heart attack as he runs away.
  • "Monty Python Live At the Hollywood Bowl"- performing , "How Sweet To Be An Idiot" , "I'm The Urban Spaceman" , "Bruces Philosophers Song" , "Salvation Fuzz Sketch". ( Performed , but not in the film , "Stoop Solo Song" (w/ Carol Cleveland ) )

Python solo works …

  • Gilliam's "Jabberwocky" - the nervous page , whom gets a drum smashed over his head , and is promoted to herald.
  • Palin's "The Missionary" - the gin hall singer , whom gets hit by a chair. Also contributes the song , "Put On Your Ta-Tas Little Girlies"
    • Michael Palin in return , appeared on Innes' "Innes Book of Records" television series , and his 45rpm single "Recycled Vinyl Blues"
  • Jones's "Erik The Viking" - as a High Brasilian. ( Most visible as the island sinks. ) ( Also wrote the music score. )
  • Idle's "Rutland Weekend Television" , "The Rutles" , & "Not The Messiah , He's A Very Naughty Boy"
  • Cleese's "Pleasure At Her Majesty's" ( performs "Protest Song" ) & "The Secret Policemans Other Ball" ( performs , "Spontaneous" & "Song In A French Accent" )
  • ( Mentioned in Graham Chapman's "A Liars Autobiography , Vol.VI" )

On record ( not including compilations ):

  • "Monty Python's Previous Record" - supplies the "Fairytale music".
  • "Monty Python's Matching Tie & Handkerchief" - supplies the music & songs for "Background to History,Part IV"
  • "Monty Python Live At Drury Lane" - sings "Idiot Song" and performs in "Election Night".
  • "The Album of the Soundtrack of the Trailer of the Film of Monty Python & The Holy Grail" - performs on "Knights of the Round Table" & "Brave Sir Robin".
  • "Monty Python Live At City Center" - performs , "Short Blues","Protest Song" and "Bruces Philosophers Song"
  • "Life of Brian Soundtrack Album" - ( technically ; there's a photo of him as his character among the many photos on the inner sleeve. )
  • "Spamlot Original Cast Soundtrack" - makes use of Innes' contributions to "Holy Grail".

And books:

  • "Monty Python and the Holy Grail ( Book)"
  • "Life of Brian / Montypython'slifeofbrianscrapbook"
  • "The Monty Python Poorly Illustrated and Fairly Incomplete Songbook"
  • "Monty Python Live"

And of course on stage:

  • "Monty Python's First Farewell Tour" ( England and Canada )
  • "Monty Python Live At City Center"
  • "Monty Python Live At The Hollywood Bowl"
  • "Concert For George"
  • "Not The Messiah,He's A Very Naughty Boy"

Okay … on reflection , it's a lot. But , it would beef up his filmography and discography sections! Just saying. 75.104.162.136 (talk) 19:46, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Added in a Bibliography section + Basic Bonzo Discography.[edit]

Hope no one minds. He is sort of a renaissance man. But , most of all , it was really bugging me to see an entry that included a discography of the 1 album/1 single band "The World" & the 3 albums/2 singles band "GRIMMS" … but ZERO on The Bonzo Dog Band! So , I've amended it. ( Readers can press the already noted "Bonzo" link , within the main body of the article for their own amusements. )

Would it be useful or pointless to include MORE discography? He's certainly been on a few other people's albums , and produced a few to boot. ( John Entwhitle's "Smash Your Face Against The Wall" , and The Scaffold's "Fresh Liver" , come to mind. ) ( Oh , and the Monty Python stuff … wonder who reminded me of that? ) Harvey J Satan (talk) 18:50, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Only person to work with the Beatles and Monty Python?[edit]

I don't know of a source for this, but I can't think of anyone else. Apepper (talk) 19:38, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How about George Harrison? He produced at least one Monty Python film, and he is in the Rutles movie along with most of the Python members, and in his one scene he is interviewing Michael Palin. (I realize you were probably thinking of people who were not Beatles themselves, but he certainly "worked with" the Beatles.) Neutron (talk) 16:10, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tributes[edit]

Why can't tributes be illustrated with any quotes exactly? In fact it seems a little trite, not to say pointless, to simply say "so-and-so paid tribute" without giving at least a sample of what they said. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:10, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Central School of Art and Design[edit]

The NME claims here that Innes studied drawing at Central. This seems unlikely if he was studying Fine Art full time at Goldsmiths. Stanshall and Smith were certainly at Central. But is there any better source that NME to support the claim for Innes? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:38, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He did a guest spot with Yo La Tengo[edit]

When they toured the UK back in 2000 or so Neil Innes appeared with them as a guest artiste. We saw them at the RNCM in Manchester! 94.173.233.10 (talk) 18:55, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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