Talk:Nawal El Saadawi

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Nawal is not an "Islamic" feminist, she may be Muslim, but not Islamic! far from it (as she says, regardless of my opinion). Actually, I'm not even quite sure she considers herself muslim or not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maha Odeh (talk • contribs) 11:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I want to revisit this question. First, I don't understand the difference between Islamic feminist and Muslim feminist. But, second, I'm not convinced that El Saadawi does self-identify as a Muslim. The source provided at this moment[1] strikes me as insufficient. The entire quotation reads, "Religion is a powerful weapon to divide people. You are Christian and I am Muslim, and so we kill each other." I'm not convinced that her saying this is her literally self-identifying as Muslim because the entire sentence is not meant to be taken literally (i.e. she's not actually going to kill the other person). Additionally, I've been searching the internet to find a place where she does self-identify as Muslim, and I have yet to find anything. Indeed, I keep finding quotations from her, like later in the above-mentioned article, where she seems to be against religion in general ("women are oppressed by this division between the spirit and the body. Because in religion, god became the symbol of the spirit and mind, and man was created in the image of god, so man represented spirit and mind"). Finally, I did find one article where she states definitely that she is not a "Muslim feminist".[2] I don't know whether this means that she is not Muslim or that she is not a feminist, but I do think we should probably remove the category "Islamic feminists" as a result. -- Irn (talk) 15:00, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, never mind all of that. I just did a bit more Googling and found this quotation from El Saadawi in April of this year: "Since I am not a Muslim and my husband is a Muslim, I had to fight in court for five months for our marriage to be valid."[3] That settles it for me, so I'm going to go ahead and remove those bits from the article. -- Irn (talk) 15:12, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't she a socialist, as well as being a liberal? 89.240.85.0 (talk) 11:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's of value to note some of the points she raised in this interview. It could be defined as her position from the Egyptian Elections and claims about Sec. Clinton interfering in Egyptian elections to elect the Muslim Brotherhood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQDsgv8wEvA

el Saadawi's Socialism[edit]

How very interesting that not a single, solitary mention is made in the entire article to el Saadawi's socialist beliefs... I wonder what kind of people or person could be able to write such a detailed piece, and yet 'overlook' that. Gotta love Wikipedia.

All the servers are based in the U.S. (Florida?), right?

Pazouzou (talk) 15:23, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peace Treaty[edit]

What is the 'Jerusalem Peace Treaty'? Why no other references to it in Wikipedia. Don't you mean the 'The Egyptian–Israeli Peace Treaty'? Niemin2 (talk) 20:08, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't able to find any sources referencing a treaty in connection with her imprisonment. Corrected the text based on a reliable source. Danger (talk) 21:21, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Devout muslim[edit]

A recent edit removed "Saadawi was a devout Muslim and she has expressed the view that women are oppressed by the large patriarchal religions." The reference is dead but is archived here. However, the archived interview does not appear to mention Saadawi's religion. I'm posting to note the archive for anyone interested. Johnuniq (talk) 01:18, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As stated above, this 2011 interview sheds some light on the issue: "Islamic fundamentalists told me that an atheist woman is not allowed to marry a Muslim man. Since I am not a Muslim and my husband is a Muslim, I had to fight in court for five months for our marriage to be valid." We can conclude from that that she is not a Muslim, and probably an atheist (at least, Islamic fundamentalists accuse her of atheism, which she doesn't subsequently deny). It could be that she used to be a Muslim before (perhaps she was raised as one), but we'll need better sources for that. She is currently categorised as "Egyptian former Muslims", but the text seems to fail to prove that at the moment. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:18, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

She is obviously not a Muslim but she hasn’t directly called herself an atheist so we can conclude she is non religious only Nlivataye (talk) 17:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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