Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Albany County, New York

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Albany Glassworks Site[edit]

The official name of the site was the Albany Glass Works, separate words (side note- company was Hamilton Manufactoring Society). http://www.albanyinstitute.org/z-%20AIHA%20website/5-Collections/Decorative%20arts/flasks.htm is just one citation for proof. Willing to post more if needed. I believe, also in other names on the list, the names given taken off the NRHP is simply from people working with said register not knowing the true name or misprinting or whatever when a place gets put on the NRHP (coughcoughbureaucratscoughcough), has there been any discussion on the appropriate wikiproject on naming conventions whether or not to use the true name of the site or the one listed on the NRHP? As a side question- the address is listed on this article as restricted but I can provide a location, the location was pretty famous and written about in local history books even when it was still in production and not a historical site, is it ok to go ahead and list the location? Hint- AWFULLY close to the proposed Glass Works Village development (jeez, who'dve guessed?)Camelbinky (talk) 10:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting city off as separate list[edit]

There are around 55-60 listings in the city of Albany itself on this list, accounting for nearly a third of the entries. Of those entries, articles exist for a majority and photos for almost as many. It's time to split the city off as a separate list, as has been done with Poughkeepsie, Syracuse and Yonkers. Daniel Case (talk) 00:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth- I agree. I dont believe there are, but if there are any that cross the city lines and are therefore in the city and a neighboring town, then the listing would be listed on both the city and the county lists?Camelbinky (talk) 00:22, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Case's threshold for splitting off city/town-specific lists differs from my personal preferences in other cases (I seem to prefer for NRHP listings to be kept together in a larger list than he seems to like), but here i do agree, it is fine to split this out. Anyone interested should go ahead and split out the city of albany. There's no easy editing way to do it, you just have to split it out manually, and then renumber both lists. And, afterwards, there will probably be one or two correcting moves for places that turn out to be located outside the city, but which were identified as being "nearest to" the city in the National Register. doncram (talk) 05:37, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And about Camelbinky's question, yes a property or historic district that spanned the border should be listed in both. doncram (talk) 05:39, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting off now. doncram (talk) 22:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help checking which rows should be in which of the two lists, and fixing some coordinates, would be appreciated. doncram (talk) 22:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at both lists and did not notice right away any that seemed to be at an address that should make it be on the other list. Since the village of Menands uses an Albany ZIP code double checking to make sure any places in the village of Menands arent listed as Albany by accident would be the first place to start but I didnt notice any myself. A follow-up question I have is about the column for "city or town" on the Albany County list. Most of the places in that column arent towns or cities, they are the names of the hamlet (or actually the ZIP Code) that the place is in. Should the column be renmaned "place" or "location" to reflect that; or we can change from using place-names and actually put the municipality (town, village, or city) the location is in and rename the column "municipality", which is what I personally would prefer. Whatever is decided is fine, as long as something is done to clarify that most of the places in that column arent actually the names of towns or cities.Camelbinky (talk) 23:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]