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I saw this excellent movie for the first time the other night on TCM. However, I was startled by the similarity of the "flower show" subplot to a subplot in the recent PBS/BBC Masterpiece Theater production of "Downton Abbey."FLAHAM (talk) 00:19, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spoiler in the introductory paragraph[edit]

"And loses her daughter-in-law as a casualty" is a spoiler, since it happens very near the end of the film. I think someone should either remove it or change it to say something else. Lionboy-Renae (talk) 04:58, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The general guideline is that articles do not omit information on that ground. See WP:SPOILER. "It is not acceptable to delete information from an article because you think it spoils the plot." William Avery (talk) 06:33, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How much is the film based on the book by Jan Struther?[edit]

The statement in the lead section that the film is "based on" the book of the same name by Jan Struther is misleading. The book, to explain to anyone who has not read it, is a series of anecdotal essays which reads like a diary, full of lively interactions between family and friends, and reflections on how life was for them all at that time, the year before the outbreak of World War II. According to the information on the back cover, the book is a compendium of the series of essays published as a column by "Mrs Miniver" in The Times before the War. Yes, in the book there is shown the shadows of danger, mild experience of shortages, and gas masks, the word JEWS significant on a newspaper board, but the reality of the air-raids and the fighter planes and Dunkirk and personal loss, none of that had arrived and does not appear in the book. However, Valerie Grove, in her introduction to Mrs Miniver explains that Jan Struther, when she was in America, did help in the film. The screenplay does not follow any narrative in the book: it (almost) the same family, the screenplay rather continues as a sequel to where the book ended. A small change to the lead section will correct the impression it gives, and I shall try to think of something unless someone else can. Thank you. P0mbal (talk) 22:46, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 May 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved as discussed, though Mrs. Miniver will be oved to Mrs. Miniver (character). Primefac (talk) 16:18, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mrs. Miniver (film) → Mrs. Miniver
Mrs. Miniver → Mrs. Miniver (book)

– The film won the Best Picture Academy Award and has continued in culture and public consciousness as one of the best-remembered films of its era. The book (or, more precisely, the series of essays — see directly above — "How much is the film based on the book by Jan Struther?") was popular during the war, but has not remained in print and is little known in the 21st century. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:43, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support second and oppose first 73.154.31.58 (talk) 16:53, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support both. This is an extremely significant film. The book on which it is based, the newspaper columns which became the book, and the character of the same name on which they centre are now mainly of interest because of the film. Andrewa (talk) 23:14, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support: the film is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in a WP:TWODABS situation. It receives 93% of the page view traffic,[1] and is the version that is the most historically significant today, having received multiple Oscars and many other awards and continuing to be regarded as a historically important film. In fact, part of the reason the film was and remains so successful are the changes the film made to its source material. However, I believe Mrs. Miniver should move to Mrs. Minaver (character). The "(book)" disambiguation is not favored by WP:NCBOOK anyway, but in this case the article discusses not just the novel but the character, the newspaper articles, and radio and TV adaptations as well.--Cúchullain ^t/c 14:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support first move; Move to Mrs. Miniver (character) for the second, per Cúchullain. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:54, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Having submitted the nomination, I agree with Cúchullain's argument that Mrs. Miniver (character) would be a more apt form than Mrs. Miniver (book). —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 01:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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