Talk:Mordechai Eliyahu

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Perhaps someone would like to incorporate the following: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3389481,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.15.127.253 (talk • contribs)

Disagree. Unless it really does go to court, then it's a minor news item and there are many during the year like this for many public figures. Please see WP:RECENTISM too. No one will remember this or care next week.
On the other hand, the first biography of the Rabbi was published and sold out in a day. It holds an enormous amount of newly revealed info. --Shuki 20:55, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy - Eliyahu family[edit]

copied from User_talk:Ekhornbeck8:

On one hand, your addition to the R' Mordechai Eliayhu article is nothing other than WP:RECENTISM. Your creation of an article for his Shmuel Eliyahu reeks of WP:POINT. In either case, both sections are entirely unimportant, non-encyclopedic, and no one even cares this week about the comments made last week. IMO, we can remove the comments and not dirty up these articles like so many other articles are with them filled up with quotes, and other 'news'. On the other hand, we can be proud of what both these great rabbis have said. --Shuki 18:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

reply to User_talk:Ekhornbeck8#Response
please read WP:BLP as well. If you really wanted to research Rabbi Eliyahu's opinions and religious interpretations, you'd probably view most of them as controversial. In fact, some of these opinions are often taken out of context (like what you quoted) in the Israeli media and are seen as pure ignorance to the subject matter. You would expect serious journalism to have a 'rabbinical affairs' correspondant, but usually the reporting (not unlike your contribution here) are glorified gossip and pieces aimed at ridiculing the rabbi. I am inclined to WP:AGF in your part, but then again, wary about the thought of clutter. Again, the thoughts expressed by the Eliyahu family do not bother me at all, and I don't want to suppress them either, just that they are only a very minute and insignificant part of these two rabbis' work. Leaving this section inside both articles does not do justice to the them. In the Shmuel Eliyahu article, it is a totally warped edit (no offense) to have only that section inside. Again, I certainly don't deny the remarks or even opposed them either, but it seems too POV at this point. --Shuki 23:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Perhaps someone wants to write about http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1180527966693 I don't think it is minor at all, I expect that the news cycle will take it up and it will become a controversy.AvatarZ 03:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)AvatarZ

Isn't it a little misleading to put this under 'War on Hamas 2009' when it's an article from 2007?

Books[edit]

Can anybody supply a bibliography of Rav Elihayu's books? 75.21.81.247 15:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just added a basic one. Havradim (talk) 08:02, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Brit hakanaim[edit]

Copied from User talk: Pelegisrael

I saw you added this information. This information was added before and removed because no source is mentioned. Could you please provide a source this time? Thank you. Debresser (talk) 08:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is a well known basic fact about the late rabbi, and appears in every biographical source, any way this source is as good as any other. The hebrew articles of the rabby and the underground specify many more sources. Pelegisrael (talk) 03:52, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but Wikipedia policies do not allow for so-called "well-know" fact that are unsourced, especially when they are likely to be controversial, or to reflect on a person's good name. Debresser (talk) 11:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But I provided a source! read the external link. further sources - Michael Bar-Zohar's book "Hamemune" (the custodian. in Hebrew - הממונה) and Isser Harel's book Security and Democracy (in Hebrew - ביטחון ודמוקרטיה). The hebrew articles of the Rabbi and the group are fully referenced according to these sources. I have read them myself and indeed they support the article's claims. further verification - this article from Haaretz, this book in google, this article and many more. I have added a link to "Haaretz" as a reference in the article Pelegisrael (talk) 14:07, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now there is a source, thank you. 'External links' are not sources. I hope that this is an RS. --Shuki (talk) 16:11, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Debresser (talk) 19:50, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rav Mordechai Eliyahu z”l - Ancestry?[edit]

I read here: http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=9376&alias=rabbi-mordechai-eliyahu-obm That the Rav’s mother was a granddaughter of the Ben Ish Hai. Is there any other source for this? Would like to know if it is really true or not.

Also, why then don’t they just say that he is the grand-grandson of the Ben Ish Hai.

We should also add more details about his ancestry in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mosheb (talk • contribs) 13:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The answer to your question why the article doesn't simply say that he was a grand-grandson is simple. To show from which side he is a descendant. Anyway, if this source is reliable, the info should definitely be added to this article. Debresser (talk) 05:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
His mother was a grand-niece. Just updated the article. Havradim (talk) 08:02, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested?[edit]

"he wrote a letter to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert which suggested 'that there was absolutely no moral prohibition against the indiscriminate killing of civilians during a potential massive military offensive on Gaza aimed at stopping the rocket launchings'.[9] "

So is it an exact quote, or the reporter's inference? the link is dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.178.109.160 (talk) 18:26, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The link works. Havradim (talk) 08:02, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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