Talk:Missing My Baby

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Featured articleMissing My Baby is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
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Did You Know Article milestones
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February 22, 2012Peer reviewReviewed
June 20, 2012Good article nomineeListed
July 4, 2012Peer reviewReviewed
August 27, 2012Featured article candidateNot promoted
October 27, 2012Featured article candidatePromoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 3, 2012.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that "Missing My Baby" was one of the first songs to be played on radio stations after Selena was murdered?
Current status: Featured article

General comments for the article[edit]

  • I haven't gone too in depth as yet, but there are a few things that jump out at me.
  • The background and development section needs to be expanded a lot. I need to see more information about the writing and production process, and how this song came to be recorded.
    I can't find anything else, I searched google books and news and all the information already in the article is all I found. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 19:38, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs a charts performance section.
    Billboard removed most of Selena's chart positions and rankings, online I can't find when it debut or even peaked. Though Allmusic, thankfully, archived it, however, they only provide peak positions. I found this to verify Allmusic's claim. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 19:38, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Link is dead. But the article needs info to be featured. I don't know how else to explain this. Orane (talk) 09:07, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Last section of "Composition" reads like a proseline (prose that reads like a laundry list of unrelated points).
    I got most of the information from other FA song articles, which information is redundant? Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 19:38, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's not that its redundant. It that the prose is stilted and repetitive. It goes "x said this, xx said this, yz said this, yy said this". Try for more compelling prose. Orane (talk) 09:07, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that before I comment further and read the article too closely, you need to finish it. So when you've done that, get back to me. Use other articles about songs as a template for this one, and see what sections you need to develop. Orane (talk) 07:33, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE copy edit, August 2012[edit]

  • FN5 (Dreaming of you sheet music): the citation is currently a {{Cite web}} to the book's entry on the publisher's web site, but the preview there has none of "missing my Baby", so large parts of the first paragraph of "Composition" fail verification. If these things are in the song book itself, then the citation should read:
    {{cite book|url=http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Dreaming-Of-You/2898756 |first1=Selena |last1=Quintanilla–Perez |first2=Pete |last2=Astudillo |authorlink1=Selena |authorlink2=Pete Astudillo |title=Dreaming of You: Selena Digital Sheet Music|year=1995 |accessdate=21 January 2012 |publisher=[[Hal Leonard]] |isbn=0793563534}}
giving
Quintanilla–Perez, Selena; Astudillo, Pete (1995). Dreaming of You: Selena Digital Sheet Music. Hal Leonard. ISBN 0793563534. Retrieved 21 January 2012.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
Note that the publisher's web site isn't linked here, nor should it be, because this book is available from several outlets. --Stfg (talk) 10:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have the book and it does confirm it, but if you look here, you can see "Missing My Baby" as one of the songs discussed =) Best, Jonatalk to me 12:16, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see it there either, Jona. Under which tab? --Stfg (talk) 13:43, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It says it in the description "Matching folio to the album with 13 songs, including: Dreaming Of You + I Could Fall In Love + I'm Getting Used To You + Missing My Baby + Wherever You Are + and more. Features a separate lyric section and photos of this late pop star. (Hal Leonard Corporation)" Best, Jonatalk to me 14:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, but you're sourcing things like "mid-tempo", 144 bpm, B minor, D#2–F#4, chorus twice before concluding. None of that is in either of the web links you've given. Shall we use the book reference? --Stfg (talk) 14:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Best, Jonatalk to me 14:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Composition" section: removed "The Denver Post said that "Missing My Baby" is a ballad piece.[7]" as it adds nothing to what we already have. --Stfg (talk) 10:46, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Lyrical interpretation" section: "verse-pre-chorus-chorus form" is very confusing, and pre-chorus is a vague term anyhow. Since "pre-chorus" later links to Bridge (music), and "bridge section" is a term familiar to musicians of all persuasions, do you mind if I use that term throughout? Thus the above would become "verse-bridge-chorus form". --Stfg (talk) 13:54, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Lyrical interpretation" section: "Strings gradually fade in" -- do you have a source for that? Because I've just listened to it on youtube (original version), and what I hear first coming in over the drums is a synth, and it's hardly a fade-in. Strings appear (very softly) rather later. What exactly does the source say? --Stfg (talk) 14:37, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Not vandalism, just a slight misunderstanding of what you meant. ;) My version is less detailed, because relying on accurate aural interpretation is serious WP:OR. --Stfg (talk) 15:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Critical reception" section: "Vibe magazine said that it was because of "Missing My Baby" and "Techno Cumbia" that Quintanilla III was awarded platinum plaques for these recordings.[15]" Read it again. The source says that Full Force received gold and platinum plaques for them. --Stfg (talk) 14:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I read it wrong :/ Best, Jonatalk to me 14:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Critical reception" section: "Cary Clack of San Antonio Express-News wrote that "Missing My Baby" was played on non-Tejano radio stations and believed it would have been a posthumous hit.[9]" Could you do a source check please, and tell me exactly what it says? What makes me uneasy is "would have been". What stopped it being one? --Stfg (talk) 15:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
According to this it's sourced to the wrong link. It clearly says "A single of hers that is played on non-Tejano stations, "Missing My Baby," displays her wonderful vocal and emotional range and may become a posthumous hit." :/ Best, Jonatalk to me 15:11, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what link you have there, because here the one you give simply redirects to Google UK's home page, and searching for what you searched for gets lots of hits. I've corrected the tense, but if the citation has the wrong link, could you correct it? --Stfg (talk) 15:42, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Critical reception" section": when Mario Tarradell said that this and other tracks "were added for good measure", which album was he referring to? (The source mentions several, but it's subscription-only.) --Stfg (talk) 16:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Entre a Mi Mundo (1992). Jonatalk to me 16:16, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question, instead of saying "Missing My Baby had a good reception." wouldn't it be better to say "Missing My Baby received a positive response from music critics."? Best, Jonatalk to me 17:30, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, that's fine. --Stfg (talk) 19:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Main Page day coming[edit]

... on March 31. I noticed "D♯4 up to F♯2" in the text ... F♯2 is a bass note, so that's probably wrong. - Dank (push to talk) 13:27, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The music note was provided by the Virtual DJ software and cited to the music book that the song is associated with. Should I just remove that text? Best, jona(talk) 16:52, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Unless she sings bass, I think it would be a good idea. - Dank (push to talk) 17:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Best, jona(talk) 14:18, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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