Talk:Milt Scott

A fact from Milt Scott appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 July 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that professional baseball player "Mikado Milt" Scott gained his nickname amid a "Mikado" craze that invaded the sport in 1886?

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Mikado Milt[edit]

The article says that the nickname Mikado Milt was "based on" the comic opera by Gilbert and Sullivan. Based on it how? Did he wear a kimono? Behead people? Function as Lord High Everything Else? Similarly, quoting from a contemporary paper that there was a "Mikado craze" and "Mikado clubs" means nothing unless it is explained what these were. Unless this can be explained, the second sentence should be removed and the first sentence changed to "He was nicknamed Mikado Milt after Gilbert and Sullivan's comic opera." 86.44.202.53 (talk) 15:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Handball[edit]

The article claims that Scott was "an expert handball player", but does not say what sort of "handball", which is a word used to describe two sports that have almost nothing to do with one another except for using the hand to hit a ball.

My guess is that it probably means American handball rather than team handball, but I can't really be sure. The American handball article says the sport started in San Francisco in the 1870s, so it's at least possible.

I can't download the reference to check; it seems to be connecting but the document never comes through.

Just one last point: Whoever fixes this, I recommend spelling out American handball, or team handball as the case may be, explicitly in the text, not with a piped link. The problem with a piped link is that a reader who doesn't follow the link (or at least hover over it) won't see which one is meant. --Trovatore (talk) 22:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update on the ref: It actually does come through — it's just that it's a very slow-to-render PDF. Looks like a scan of a newspaper. For anyone else looking for the relevant part, it's in the third column, second paragraph from the bottom. Here's what it says:

“

MILT SCOTT, of the Pittsburgs, practices in a Chicago hand ball court daily. He is quite an expert hand ball player. Match him against Fred Dunlap, another crack hand ballist.

”

So I'm afraid the ref doesn't really clear things up here. I'm still assuming it's American handball, which makes the link in the article incorrect, but there is no conclusive proof yet. --Trovatore (talk) 18:26, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]