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Bias of critical reception[edit]

The Carbuncle Cup was spawned from bias against modern architecture, and the positive reception towards MediaCityUK's architecture was biased towards it as well. Therefore, there should be no critical reception area. --2601:199:4181:E00:B01B:F27C:2C01:EFF3 (talk) 13:12, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Really struggling to understand the rationale of a section of text containing "biased information on both sides". That is a contradiction. Some months ago, a section of text was repeatedly removed by an IP editor for the reason that it was "Biased, from one viewpoint". In the spirit of constructive editing, I addressed that concern by
(a) reducing the length of direct quotes by a negative critic, as this could be considered to give WP:UNDUE weight to a viewpoint; and
(b) researched and added in some positive commentary.

The disputed section now contains both positive and negative commentary by critics. This is the opposite of bias - it is an impartial reporting of critical commentary, fully sourced and fully in line with WP:NPOV. I see no problem with this short section at all. Cnbrb (talk) 13:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Geographical extent of MediaCityUK[edit]

Question: does MediaCityUK include the development across the Ship Canal on Trafford Wharf (Imperial War Museum, ITV Studios) and the Lowry, or is it limited to the area on the Salford side of the canal around Quay House etc? There seems to be contradictory information about the geography of the development. Thanks. Cnbrb (talk) 17:40, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think the definition has changed over time, certainly since the development of the BBC and studio buildings. Compare the maps on page 1 of this 2006 planning document and page 53 of this one from January 2023 (also page 260) and it certainly looks like what Salford City Council are referring to as MCUK has shrunk (to just be the bit labelled as Quays Point in the former document!).
To add to the conflicting nature, OpenStreetMap has two entities labelled as MediaCity UK: a "neighbourhood" (which links to this wiki article and associated wikidata entry) and a much wider "locality".
In a more POV argument from working and socialising there the more restrictive interpretation matches how I've interacted with the place - the wider area is Salford Quays (including the Trafford side of the canal, I guess) and MediaCityUK is the area bounded by the canal, the tram line and Broadway.  M2Ys4U (talk) 00:47, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - some interesting points there. I think OpenStreetMap is user-generated, and so like Wikipedia itself, is not a WP:RS.
I was also thinking that the actual extent of MediaCityUK was on the dock 10 peninsula, and all else beyond is Salford Quays, However, I notice that the official MediaCityUK website includes the Lowry, the Lowry Outlet Mall (now named MediaCity Quayside), the IWM, and ITV/Coronation Street - notably the MediaCityUK map, and the MediaCityUK directory. I wonder if Peel Holdings has increased its footprint and therefore the extent of MediaCityUK, over the "border" into Trafford? This article seems to partially reflect that, anyway. Cnbrb (talk) 08:41, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Lowry is not part of Peel's land holdings or the wider MCUK development, it existed in isolation for some years before the area was built up. In the past I was able to confirm by searching HMLR and property databases (before the service I used discontinued its free plan) that the Lowry theatre's land and property is owned by Salford Council. To my knowledge, it's the only parcel of land like this in the Quays area, apart from the original Grain Wharf residential development. All other areas adjacent to basins or canals are owned by Peel or some of its subsidiary/shell companies. I believe, though I can't currently confirm, that this includes the IWM land and the ITV land on which the Coronation Street studios are built.
All that being said, I guess some people, particularly visitors, might consider The Lowry and IWM North as being part of "MediaCityUK" (or should we be saying "Media City" now?) due to geography. So might best to clarify each time when describing them? Chris W. (talk) 15:29, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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