Talk:Mattheus Marinus Schepman

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Contested deletion[edit]

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because the creator just made it two seconds ago and will expand it and probably has good reason to think the subject is notable. --Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:44, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I deletee this article some 48 minutes after its creation, but have restored it by request to allow time for the author to improve it.--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 21:02, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relative?[edit]

1 - M.M. Schepman I don't read Dutch. But the names are the same, and I would guess there is a relationship. Based on the most recent edit, this confirms they are his parents. 7&6=thirteen () 14:29, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have it set up for automatic translation from Dutch to English. I get: The first mayor was Matthew Marinus Piershil Schepman. Matthew Marinus Schepman was born on Wednesday, January 8, 1777 in Rotterdam, son of Dr. Teunis (also Anthony or Antoine) Schepman (lord of Valck Stein) and Henrietta Maria Welborn. Looks like grandfather and grandmother to me - now that I am looking at it closer. It appears his father's name is the same as subject's name.--Doug Coldwell talk 19:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Monographs[edit]

Somewhere I ran across a statement that he had done hundreds of illustrated monographs. Unfortunately, I've been unable to relocate/find that. Sigh 7&6=thirteen () 21:06, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looked up Nederlandse Malacological Vereniging in the Dutch wikipedia. I note that they did not have an article specifically on that subject, nor did they have one on Mattheus Marinus Schepman, but they had a large article on Malacology, and I think there were a lot of Dutch malcologists listed who aren't in the English wikipedia. 7&6=thirteen () 16:09, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I also used Malacology from the Dutch Wikipedia as a source for additions to "Further reading." Credit given where credit is due. 7&6=thirteen () 19:56, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A spelling question[edit]

"Mollusk" or "Mollusc". This article (and wikipedia) seems to not be on the same page. Is this one of those British English and American English issues? 7&6=thirteen () 13:53, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A good question. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful and enlightening answer (or nonanswer). Is that citation in the Mollusc/Mollusk article, because it probably should be? 7&6=thirteen () 16:15, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that citation is in the appropriate article, and yes, "mollusc" is the British English spelling, whereas "mollusk" is the American English spelling. Perhaps this article should all be in British English as Schepman was Dutch, and British English is what most Dutch people learn, the UK being right across the North Sea from the Netherlands? What do people think? Invertzoo (talk) 17:49, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree. This is a logical argument, and I see no countervailing claim. No American hegemony in Wikipedia. We will all get along or else! 7&6=thirteen () 18:02, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the choice should be culturally sensitive, depending upon the subject matter of the article. Having the spelling flip around in one article that has a particular geographic locus makes no sense. It should not depend upon the mere happenstance of where the editors are from. 7&6=thirteen () 18:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree strongly. I think one should try to consciously chose which English should be used, based on the subject matter of the article, where that is applicable. However, basically what tends to happen is that people forget that this is even an issue, and just edit away haphazardly in their own version of English. For DYKs and anything else that appears on the Main Page, this is a significant issue and care should be taken to resolve it before the DYK appears. Invertzoo (talk) 17:30, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The national origins of editors is merely adventitious, and I think you've gotten the spelling right in this particular article. 7&6=thirteen () 01:22, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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