Talk:Mate guarding in humans

Peer Review 1

I read through the whole article and made a few small copy editing changes such as grammar but otherwise it's well written, with the topic being broken down and spoken about in detail, covering a range of areas under this header. There is also a 'See also' section which encourages further reading. I would say it meets the notability wiki guideline as well as others, especially as the sections are well cited. The introduction is short and concise, getting the message across of what mate guarding is.

Further improvements

• The term intrasexual is not defined when it is first mentioned (introduction) but is defined in the 'Risks' section. You could move the definition earlier?
• It would be great if you could add some images! Visual information will help a lot with understanding the topic
• The risks section only has one citation which may make the section come across as 'opinion' due to it not being supported by multiple sources.
• The avoidance section slightly sounds like an essay rather than a description. I think this because the "X researcher said this" format was used a few times. It's just a matter of rephrasing some of the sentences.
• Has there been research on male resistance to guarding? The resistance section is a great addition as it shows that things don't always go one set way, and for some one partner may not provide everything that is needed. I like that examples of tactics were given as well as individual differences that play a role.

Otherwise, it was an interesting and well explained piece!

NidaAhmad2 (talk) 17:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

- Thank you for your feedback!

• We have moved the intrasexual definition to first time it is mentioned in the introduction
• We have added a picture to provide a visual example of mate guarding
• Unfortunately there is limited research on specifically male mate guarding, and that was the only relevant citation to use. We hope the objective style of writing ensures it doesn't come across as opinion!
• The phrasing in the avoidance section has been rephrased to give a more descriptive style
• We have looked thoroughly for further research on male resistance to mate guarding, though unfortunately studies in this area are very limited! This could be an addition in at a later point if further research is carried out. LukeH1 (talk) 15:40, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Peer Review 2

I like how it’s easy to read and understandable. It’s also well laid out. Here are some suggestions for improving the page:

• Can you add another citation to the introduction, as there is only 1 at the end?
• Maybe in the risks section you could explain what is wrong with the child not being genetically his (in evolutionary terms)?
• Could you include something about culture or religion under the strategies section?
• Maybe explain what makes a “desirable mate”, under avoidance? (You briefly mention limited resources).
• You use the term “poachers” – I know what you mean, but is this the correct word and do you need to define it?
• What do you mean by attachment styles? Maybe link a page? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_theory )

Hope this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sara Jane Sutty (talk • contribs) 21:07, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

• We have added more citations to the introduction
• We have explained what is wrong with the child not being genetically his
• We have not added anything about culture as we created this page from scratch, and to do this well would require adding another section. We have added links to culture, but encourage others to add to this in the future.
• We have already included a link how a desirable mate is defined
• A link has been added to describe the term poachers
• Thank you for taking time to review our page EmmaHorton (talk) 16:29, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Peer Review 3

Hi,

I have read your article and think it is great considering you created a new article from scratch. Good work guys!

However, here are some suggestions for future editing:

• You only include six links to other pages which I think is quite sparse in comparison to the amount of text/ information you have on the page. Maybe add some more (e.g: a link to the menstrual cycle page, so readers are able to obtain more information on the different stages you outlined). However, I like that you have included a 'see also' section with regard to other related components to mate guarding, which clearly directs the reader to useful, further reading. It may be useful here to add the page 'sexual selection' to the list, as this mentions both intersexual and intrasexual selection, and may help to provide more context.
• You do not currently have any images. I think this would make the page more attractive and serve to demonstrate some of your points further.
• You do not specify which other animals mate guarding is seen in. Maybe add an example and provide a reference for this comment?
• You state under the 'Risks' section that if the female becomes fertilised, the male loses the opportunity to reproduce for an extended period of time. Is there a reference for this? Also, could you explain what you mean by this, as the male is not restricted from engaging in sexual activity with other females as such, even if his mate is pregnant, since many males may pursue other mates to increase their chances of continuing their genetic line. If you meant this in terms of the male loses the opportunity to reproduce with his pregnant mate, it would perhaps be beneficial if this was stated more explicitly.
• Maybe illustrate how females may change their behaviour across their menstrual cycle, and how men actually pick up on this.
• Is mate guarding considered to be a universal phenomenon? Maybe add some research that highlights cross cultural differences/ similarities in tactics? Also, your research focuses on heterosexual mate guarding techniques. Is there any research to demonstrate whether mate guarding operates differently in homosexual couples, and if so, how?

Overall, a really nice, well written article. Catherine Turvey (talk) 13:06, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey,

Thanks for your peer review. We have taken on board your suggestions and added lots of different links from this page to other Wikipedia articles including 'sexual selection' in the see also section. We have also added an image on to our page. We have also specificed and given an example of the animals that employ mate guarding. We also added a reference and more information under the risks section about the male losing the opportunity to reproduce. We added information about how females change their behaviour across the menstrual cycle and how men detect this. We have mentioned that mate guarding happens cross culturally but because we have started the article from scratch we suggest that further sections could be added on cultural and sexuality differences in mate guarding by other wikipedia editors as there is some research on this although it is limited.

Thanks again! Lydiahextell (talk) 16:37, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Peer Review 4

Hello,

Overall, I am really impressed with your new wikipedia page. I think it is clear, concise and follows the wiki-guidelines. It is an interesting read and would make a great starting point for anyone wanting to find out about mate guarding.

Here are a couple of suggestions for improving the page:

• At the moment your page is 'orphaned' and does not have any links from other pages going to it. It would be great if you could add links to other pages, that direct them to 'mate guarding in humans'.
• It would also be nice to have more categories to your page e.g. evolutionary biology.
• The page is a little plain, a few images would make it a lot better.
• There's a couple of places which could do with a few more citations e.g. the beginning of the introduction, after 'men are also more likely to employ threatening and violent behaviour towards intrasexual rivals' in Male mate guarding strategies and the 'proximity' section.
• The partner qualities has no external links. These could be added for 'pair bonded', 'genetic', 'attractiveness' etc...
• In the partner qualities section it would be useful to explain 'digit span ratio' as this is a little unclear.

Hope this was helpful! Hollybrazier123 (talk) 17:38, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

• We have added links from other pages
• What do you mean by more categories?
• We have added images
• We have added more citations
• We have added external links to partner qualities and have also explained digit span ratio
• Thank you for reviewing our page, we have taken your comments on board! EmmaHorton (talk) 16:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Peer Review 5

Great article. The lead is really good. You’ve done well to back up everything with references! A few improvements (tried to stick to things that haven't already been mentioned!)

• I think the title for the ‘when it is employed’ section could be better worded.
• You could link some other wikipedia pages in your text to allow the read to understand the concepts more fully.
• The ‘fail to introduce’ heading doesn’t sound quite right either- maybe reword this
• Partner qualities section- what is digit span ratio (link to a page or maybe explain this briefly because although its not necessarily important to understanding the paragraph, it’s best to explain!)

Srt1996 (talk) 16:18, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi - thank you for your thoughts on our article!

• We have changed the title of this section to 'circumstances of use' - hopefully this is worded better now
• We have now included may more links throughout, allowing readers to further their knowledge on the concepts used if they wish
• This section has now been renamed 'failure to introduce'
• There is no page specifically for digit span ratio, so a description of it has been added in

LukeH1 (talk) 16:48, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Peer Review 6

You have made great progress! Besides a few minor copy edits, here are some comments for improvement:

• Each edit makes for a clear and coherent read, adhering to the Wikipedia Guidelines. Your decision to open the article with a definition of ‘human mate guarding’ and what it constitutes allows the reader to easily engage with subsequent material. You have made a minor grammatical mistake in the line ‘…resultantly reducing his social status and affect his future chances to reproduce’, perhaps you could re-phrase this slightly. This is under the subheading ‘Risks’.

• You have also made good use of supporting evidence cited cross-culturally. However, it may prove useful to incorporate more statistics regarding the frequency of male and female mate guarding, tactics employed, and how they compare.

• Overall, you have a good balance of the different aspects of the topic - no sub-heading appears to dominate any other. My only suggestion would be to incorporate more information from an evolutionary perspective. For instance, you mention that ‘responses to mate guarding…have also been observed in both humans and other animals’, yet do not develop or expand this point. This is under the sub-heading ‘Resistance to Mate Guarding’ .

• Correct and consistent use of citations throughout, each from a respected source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verity345 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for your peer review and comments! We have rephrased the sentence you suggested. We have already included a few statistics where relevant already, however different studies have different statistics so it would be difficult to gain a consensus on this. We have also added more detail on how resistance is seen in animals and the evolutionary implications of this. Thanks again, Lydiahextell (talk) 16:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

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