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The Branch Davidians would seem to be appropriate for this article in the same way that Jonestown is. Both have elements of both mass murder and mass suicide.

I am assuming this isn't because there are still some who argue the feds started that fire.

"Japan is known for its centuries of suicide tradition, from hara-kiri ceremonial self-of Saipan preacher and head of the Peoples Temple. (It should be noted that it is believed that many of those 913 people were murdered, or forcibly injected with cyanide against their will.)"

It looks like the Jonestown part and the Japanese part got clipped together somehow.

Yes, that's exactly what happened. Thanks for catching it. I've fixed it now. -Will Beback 23:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Suicide bombing is a form of mass suicide? Can someone explain this to me? Gflores ^Talk 01:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd have to agree here. Suicide bombing is a form of mass murder with the addition of a single suicide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.102.0.106 (talk) 19:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would the high suicide rate following the stock market crash in 1929 count as a mass suicide? It would make a good example, I think, but I can't make out whether it fits the criteria listed in the article. Lau42 19:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Added refs[edit]

There are a couple that are a somewhat loose fit for the text. Particularly not all the statements in the first paragraph match up with the Holology ref and I couldn't easily find a reliable source for all the figures in the Order of the Solar Temple paragraph. Would appreciate if anyone can find closer matches or adjust the text to better match the refs. Thanks & regards Bksimonb 20:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yenking[edit]

What about the 60,000 chin women that fell from the city walls when their capital, Yenking was beseiged by the Mongols, under Genghis Khan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.119.239 (talk • contribs)

Do you have any more information about this, or a source? ·:· Will Beback ·:· 18:50, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Puputan[edit]

Puputan is a form of Balinese mass-suicide and so it seems sensible that that article be merged into this. Colonel Warden (talk) 16:32, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree it should be mentioned here, this page has a bunch of fairly disparate examples, most of which have their own pages anyway, so my vote would be to keep a separate article page. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:27, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

a fan of Matt from Darkley Noone, doc? Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We must distinguish the historical incidents - usually associated with a battle or campaign - from the particular phenomenon of mass suicide or massacre. Now that I look more closely, the Balinese case seems better described at Running amok. See Talk:Puputan for more details. Colonel Warden (talk) 00:29, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Cult suicide > Mass suicide[edit]

The term "cult suicide" doesn't exist, and the term "cult" is contentious and unreliable. Moving the content here under a heading "religious suicides" or "suicides by religious groups" will bring neutrality and factuality to the issue. Zambelo; talk 22:38, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, although there have certainly been mass suicides motivated by religion. BayShrimp (talk) 18:58, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peoples Temple Discrepancies[edit]

This article stated that 303 children died during the suicide at Jonestown, but the page on Congressman Don Harris states that 276 children died during the event. The page on Don Harris provides this citation, while this page's number lacks a citation. I'm assuming the number was simply an estimate of one third of the total loss of life, but 303 is quite different from 276 (there's a large 9% numerical error) so I decided to change the number to 276.

If there are sources that claim different numbers (because the exact definition of "children" can be arbitrary) I'll be happy to change it back. 129.15.66.203 (talk) 01:52, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Burari Mass Suicide.[edit]

Please mention about Burari mass suicide in section Religiously motivated suicides. It is actually spirituality motivated suicide. Here is the source. Ram nareshji (talk) 10:36, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Malindi cult[edit]

The Kenyan Malindi cult's mass starvation incident in 2023 apparently involved cult leader Paul Nthenge Mackenzie enticing followers to starve themselves, resulting in at least 73 deaths. May be listed here as a religious incident if more details are confirmed.

"Kenya cult deaths: 47 bodies found in investigation into 'starvation cult'". BBC News. 22 April 2023.

9³ (talk) 00:25, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]