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An anecdote about Margery Fry[edit]

John Mabbott, in Oxford Memories, Thornton's, Oxford, 1986 (pp.81-2), describes how he met Miss Fry. He was a Fellow of St. John's College, but also gave tutorials to students at Somerville, then a women's college. If there was only one girl, he had to give the tutorial at Somerville. When Miss Fry was appointed Principal, he went to see her with the ultimatum that he would no longer tolerate this situation. He says: I knocked at the door marked "Principal" and went in. I saw a very lively looking girl, sitting in a corner and typing furiously, with her hair all over the place. ... (taking her for the secretary, he asked to see Miss Fry urgently) ... She said "I am Miss Fry. Who are you?" Somewhat shaken, I told her.' Miss Fry was then 52! She sorted the problem out in the space of three weeks. Mabbott's first Somerville student after this told him that the Somerville girls '.. had heard that the new Principal was an authority on Food Reform and Prison Reform, and these were the two things Somerville needed.' Roger Hawkins 15:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this the source or the plagiarized copy?[edit]

The text here is the same (almost word for word) as the article "Margery Fry" on the website Quakers in the World: http://www.quakersintheworld.org/quakers-in-action/84/Margery-Fry. Neither article cites the other. They both cite the Howard League website, but that site doesn't include most of this material. The Somerville College website cited in Wikipedia validates some of the Somerville info, but not the rest of it.

My question is: did the Quakers-in-the-world article plagiarize Wikipedia, or did the Wikipedia author plagiarize the Quakers-in-the-world article? It's not clear to me when the Quaker article was written. In this kind of ambiguous case, should Wikipedia cite the Quakers-in-the-world website? Deanpavlakis (talk) 08:34, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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