Talk:Manchester United F.C. 9–0 Ipswich Town F.C.

Context

Can I add a context section which says that ITFC won 3-2 in the reverse fixture and MUFC lost the title by three points that season?! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I might just add that to the lead for some balance... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Lead section

The proposed wording by User:Harrias is a little clunky, and the change by User:The Rambling Man is little better. I've proposed a far better wording, but apparently this isn't appropriate because of WP:SEAOFBLUE. That MOS guideline states "When possible, avoid placing links next to each other so that they look like a single link". Unfortunately, due to the wording proposed by the two aforementioned editors being unnecessarily clunky, it is preferable to ignore that rule and proceed with the wording I have suggested; however, if there are any alternatives that satisfy both parties, that would be acceptable. – PeeJay 17:02, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm notoriously bad at lead sections! I haven't had a looked at your proposed alternative, but I'm sure we can work out something that suits all of us. I've got to sort out dinner for the family and stuff at the moment, but I'll hopefully have a look later this evening. Harrias ^talk 17:27, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

No worries, and thanks for being so personable about the whole thing. Unfortunately TRM wasn't so accommodating earlier. I've also found my own proposed wording that actually avoids the SEAOFBLUE, but take a look and see what you think. – PeeJay 17:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

No, I was probably tired of seeing obnoxious edit summaries. A little less of that and a little more collaboration like this might go a long way. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:45, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I've had a quick look and made a small tweak; the phrasing before, starting "The association football match.." made it sound like it was the only match between the teams. How do you like the current version, PeeJay2K3? Harrias ^talk 18:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I've added a little more to it. The definite article seemed appropriate since the sentence refers to the match that the article is about, and I've added some content to make it clear what the result was earlier on, since that's what makes the match notable. – PeeJay 18:23, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

That works for me now, thanks. :) Harrias ^talk 20:47, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 18:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Will review. MWright96 (talk) 18:12, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• "finished in a 9–0 win for Manchester United, a result that stands alone as the record home win in the competition's history and the joint biggest win either home or away." - too many mentions of the word "win" in a single sentence. Try to use another word where possible

  One replaced. The others are fine. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:50, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• "while Ipswich's goalkeeper was arguing with the referee," - It would help to mention the name of the Ipswich goalkeeper here

  Thus added. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Wikilink free kick to its respective article

  Done. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Background

• "However, they had been knocked out of the 1994–95 UEFA Champions League" - "knocked out" is unencyclopedic
  • How so? That is a common term for being eliminated from a tournament. – PeeJay 20:57, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Well, it appears to me at first glance to be less formal than the word "eliminated" MWright96 (talk) 07:10, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
      • No, it's fine. Single-elimination tournament for instance suggests "knockout" as a perfectly apt alternative way of putting it. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
        • Struck
• "Ipswich Town had returned to the top flight of English football in time for the start of the Premier League in the 1992–93 season;" - know that this sentence is correct but cannot find it anywhere in the "1993/94 Season Review" Premier League reference

  Added ref. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:49, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Head-to-head record

• "In the period between the two clashes between the two sides that season," - repetition of the word "between"

  Removed. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:46, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Team selection

• "was left on the bench." - think this could do with a little rewording to pass WP:LIMITED

  Maybe. Tweaked. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Would it be appropriate to wikilink transfer request to Transfer market?

  Sure. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• "which was rejected by Ferguson." - spell out his full name and wikilink it since it is the first time it will be mentioned

  Done.The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• "Kanchelskis, along with Giggs," - spell out Giggs' full name and added a link to it

  Done. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• "but the French forward was serving a nine-month suspension." - maybe it would help to state that Cantona was suspended for kicking a spectator in an earlier match

  As you like. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:38, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Summary

• Wikilink Stretford End

  Done. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Remove the wikilink for Ryan Giggs since it is second time he is mentioned

  Done. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:34, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• Wikilink the first mention of the terms cross, corner, overhead kick, volley and free kick to their respective articles

  Linked. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:44, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Reaction

• "The result was Manchester United's biggest league win in 103 years, matching the nine-goal margin they recorded in a 10–1 win" - repetition of the word "win"

  Fixed. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• "He was later quoted as" - I feel like there is a word missing from this portion of text

  Well I added some more words. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• "The victory wiped out Blackburn's goal difference advantage" - try to come up with a more formal phrase rather than use "wiped out"

  Done. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:45, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

References

• Reference 6 is missing the page number where the story can be found in that day's edition of The Observer

  Done. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• It appears that the work field in Reference 9 is missing

  Done. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:31, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

• References 10, 12, 14 does not have the name of the newspapers

  Added. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Those were all of the issues that I discovered in the article. On hold. MWright96 (talk) 20:52, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

MWright96 (and Harrias) I've addressed or responded to all the issues above, thanks for the review. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:52, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: and Harrias Am now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk)