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Politics on campus[edit]

I removed the reference to the "active" conservative faction on campus. The MacGOP exists on paper but, as a current student, I have no knowledge of any meetings, events, or other activities they've engaged in. The vast majority of students are left-leaning, with swatchs of apathy and a small resurgent radical population. -Brendan '10

Just be careful not to turn the article into a posterchild for left-wing politics. -Mike '09

Wouldn't dream of it. But I think I'm being accurate with this description, no? -Brendan '10

I would dream of it. -William '08

Regarding Brendon's post about the MacGOP, they do infact exist, meet, and do things. They are a very small organization, and do not advertise much, however as a member of the MacDems I can assure you that representatives of the MacGOP have come to us to discuss bipartisan matters. They do exist, and should be included in this entry.

Okay, well any conversation about it has been taken out now by somebody else. Fine by me. -Brendan '10 141.140.6.71 13:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

absolutely ridiculous to mention Mac GOP. It's like 2.5 people every year. Might as well mention Mac Yarn. 47.20.189.4 (talk) 01:35, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

controversy[edit]

Shouldn't this issue be briefly mentioned? https://reason.com/2023/02/09/after-muslim-students-complained-that-an-art-exhibit-was-harmful-macalester-college-shut-it-down/ 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:818B:71D6:5F6A:2383 (talk) 00:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wallace excluded?[edit]

This article seems curiously scrubbed of any mention of DeWitt Wallace, the anti-communist Republican who was a (the?) major donor to Macalester College in the past -- probably kept it from going under back then. His disputes with President Turck over the years were historic. I suppose Wallace's views would be anathema on Macalester campus today, but is wiping him out of history the appropriate reaction? T bonham (talk) 02:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring to add Money and Niche rankings[edit]

Jal6636 recently added rankings from Money and Niche. I objected to the addition and removed them. Instead of opening a discussion, they immediately restored them without any attempt at communication - not even an edit summary.

These are not reputable ranking systems taken seriously by scholars or experts. They usually are not included in article - for good reason. ElKevbo (talk) 21:37, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ElKevbo, I wrote this response on your page. "You removed the additions to the Niche and Money rankings, characterizing them as "not reputable." Niche rankings are cited on many other Wikipedia college pages including peer schools of Macalester including Colby College, Bates College and Haverford College--not to mention countless high schools and universities. Money's rankings are cited in Wikipedia's main article on college and university rankings." Jal6636 (talk) 21:55, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just because something is done in another article doesn't mean that it's a good idea or that it should be done. Where are these rankings cited outside of a few Wikipedia articles, the webpages of the organizations that make the rankings, the institutions that like to brag about their rankings, and a few overworked reporters who are just repeating what their college or university has announced? There are thousands of scholars and experts who write about and study U.S. higher education - there are even many peer-reviewed journals dedicated to the topic. Have they taken these rankings seriously? ElKevbo (talk) 22:37, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not obligated to prove the credibility of either the Niche or Money rankings. Both sources have articles on Wikipedia and both have extensive citations in education, which is the relevant matter here. And it's not "a few" Wikipedia articles. As I wrote, it's hundreds--and hundreds directly relevant to this topic. So there is simply no good reason to arbitrarily eliminate the citations on this specific article on the basis that they are "not reputable." Jal6636 (talk) 23:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]