Talk:Luisa Neubauer

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Bias in "Life"[edit]

The paragraph "life" seems to be biased and puts to much emphasis on the class background of Ms. Neubauer. Paul Troger (talk) 16:32, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Neubauer faced backlashes and is being accused of having a sexist world-view ..." The article in nau.ch cites only some completely irrelevant twitter users. If twitter users were relevant, we would have to put thousands of idiotic allegations into the article. So this line should be deleted. --2003:E0:5723:BDC4:3C8A:EFC0:FB95:6F87 (talk) 10:49, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Therefore I've deleted them. Both paragraphs were added by an IP with a clear POV, obviously trying to depreciate Neubauer. Andol (talk) 20:20, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

After the IP has vandalized the article again (see for example [1]), I want to ask other authors to watch that article carefully. Some of this allegations have been deleted [2], but not all, therefore I did that now. Andol (talk) 13:07, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And again. As the IP doesn't stopp I advise to block the article for IPs. Andol (talk) 19:56, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why are the sections controversies, life and the Adani issue are constantly being cleansed? The old edits seem to be somewhat ok-ish albeit the wording seems biased, her TV-interview on the German PBS elaborted the alleged matter in which she clearly says, less kids, less co2. Furthermore, any different POV be it Siemens or some fact such as siblings, that is not in favor of FFF or Ms. Neubauer is also always removed fairly quickly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.154.159.13 (talk) 16:05, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since Mrs. Neubauer is an active political figure, I agree the criticism section is not neutral but biased. In this article, it is not distinguished enough between her personal opinion and scientific facts. I think adding a section on the CO2 vs. kids debate, that she discusses throughout her book and also in public TV is essential to show some of the controversy around her statements. Now, the article reads as she is a climate saint, but many of her theses are quite radical. A better balance needs to be not reflected in this article. --Ihan187 (talk) 10:59, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit wars[edit]

This page has been the target of multiple edit wars. There are many that we can't deal with. 3125A^Talk!_Edits! 19:03, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DTilmann and 5.61.169.51 are the same person and he ignores that he need to cite sources who criticise the things. He uses quotes from her book and articles without criticism about the things. He says that he wants a neutral article but that is unbelievable when you read his edits.--PibeDeOuro (talk) 19:34, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PibeDeOuro. Correct, and the Wikipedia rule is that "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page". He wants neutral sources but the only sources are the ones who criticize her. Also, if you want to report 2 people using the same account, use Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations there to report. {{31}}{{25A}} 20:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do cite alot as it is stated that i use her book wehre i found controversial views. I say there are contoversial as alot of people are not in favour of this views, i dont say that i think is ideas are right or wrong. As i use her book, i hope she critizes not herself :-) Cleaning up an article from bias isnt bias in itself. It isnt sourced badly as i used her book. Furthermore just if too persons share an idea diesnt mean that there one and the same person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.61.169.51 (talk) 16:12, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You need to cite relevant persons or medias who criticise these things from her book. It isn't enough that you think that these opinions are controversial.--PibeDeOuro (talk) 15:21, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your spelling is as wrong as DTilmann. {{3125A|talk}} 14:08, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First climate strike on 14 December 2018[edit]

I covered the first climate strike on 14 December 2018 as a citizen journalist for WikiTribune. WikiTribune unfortunately failed and then later abandoned its news server. But that article is now available on zenodo as a PDF capture and possibly also on the WayBack Machine as a preserved duplicate. As follows:

original publication (the link is probably dead) ^[1]

WayBack Machine archive (although the images may now be absent) ^[2]

PDF capture on zenodo (also accompanied by extracted text) ^[3]

The article features several questions and quoted responses from Luisa.

I am happy to discuss further but please remember to ping me. I also have a photograph of Luisa at that first event and will upload the JPG to Wikimedia in due course. Finally, no other media covered the event to the best of my knowledge so this article remains the sole independent record. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 08:15, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Correction: Tagesspiegel covered the event but did not mention Luisa.^[4] RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 19:02, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Volunteers (15 December 2018). "German students strike for coal exit and green future". WikiTribune. London, United Kingdom. Retrieved 2018-12-15. Article 95062. Creative Commons CC‑BY‑4.0 license.
^ web.archive.org/web/20190514094201/https://www.wikitribune.com/article/95062/
^ Morrison, Robbie (15 December 2018). "German students strike for coal exit and green future". WikiTribune. London, United Kingdom. doi:10.5281/zenodo.5658931. Zenodo copy uploaded 9 November 2021. Creative Commons CC‑BY‑4.0 license.
^ Schulz, Annika (14 December 2018). "Schüler demonstrieren in Berlin gegen den Klimawandel" [Students demonstrate in Berlin against climate change]. Der Tagesspiegel Online (in German). Berlin, Germany. ISSN 1865-2263. Retrieved 2021-11-13.

[wikitribune-2018a-1] Volunteers (15 December 2018). "German students strike for coal exit and green future". WikiTribune. London, United Kingdom. Retrieved 2018-12-15. Article 95062. Creative Commons CC‑BY‑4.0 license.

[2] web.archive.org/web/20190514094201/https://www.wikitribune.com/article/95062/

[morrison-2018-3] Morrison, Robbie (15 December 2018). "German students strike for coal exit and green future". WikiTribune. London, United Kingdom. doi:10.5281/zenodo.5658931. Zenodo copy uploaded 9 November 2021. Creative Commons CC‑BY‑4.0 license.

[schulz-2018-4] Schulz, Annika (14 December 2018). "Schüler demonstrieren in Berlin gegen den Klimawandel" [Students demonstrate in Berlin against climate change]. Der Tagesspiegel Online (in German). Berlin, Germany. ISSN 1865-2263. Retrieved 2021-11-13.

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