Talk:List of whisky distilleries in Scotland

Titles of the individual distillery articles

I feel we should have greater consistency in the naming of the individual articles for these distilleries. Currently, there seem to be at least three naming conventions:

• Name
• Name Distillery
• Name (whisky distillery)

Of these choices, I like the third for the following reasons:

• If the word "Distillery" isn't actually in the name of the distillery itself, then the article title shouldn't represent it that way.
• Many of the distilleries share their name with that of their town or region; thus, the "(whisky distillery)" suffix unambiguously identifies the article topic.

--ColinMB (talk) 14:27, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Title of the article

Shouldn't this article be named either List of distilleries in Scotland or List of distilleries of scotch whisky? With the capitalisation of Scotch in the current title it's unclear which sense is meant. If Scotch is meant to mean of Scotland please see Scotch as to why this is contrary to normal modern usage. If Scotch refers to the drink, then it shouldn't be capitalised. I doubt that distilleries should be capitalised in either eventuality. The German article from which it was partly translated is literally called List of Scottish distilleries but I believe English Wikipedia prefers the formulation ...distilleries in Scotland to one with an adjectival form of a country name. Valiantis 19:02, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Well Scotch the drink appears to be capitalized (Scotch whisky) throughout the article. I think the idea of the page isnt so much the country of origin but the style of whisky. So, based on your suggestions, I think the most appropriate title is List of Scotch distilleries. What do you think? - grubber 07:15, 2005 August 24 (UTC)

Personally I'd query the capitalisation of Scotch in Scotch whisky, but having checked a couple of dictionaries, I suspect mine is very much the minority view (or wrong if you prefer :) ), so I'm happy to yield on that one. Your suggestion of List of Scotch distilleries solves the minor issue re: capitalisation of distilleries, but doesn't resolve the ambiguity issue. What about List of Scotch whisky distilleries or List of whisky distilleries in Scotland? Scotch is by definition whisky made in Scotland, the "style" and the country of origin are in this case the same thing.

I've no ardent passion for changing the title, if you're certain List of Scotch distilleries is the best title, then I'll leave well alone. Valiantis 19:48, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

The German original from which this was translated was definitely a list of distilleries in Scotland, without prejudice as to what kind of whisky was being made. I'm being bold and moving it to List of distilleries in Scotland. Angr/talk 12:54, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Table format

Seems to me like this article is extremely self-redundant, as it contains what is essentially two full copies of the same list, one straight alphabetical and one by region. No reason why this wouldn't be better served by a single, sortable table. I intend to pull something together for that. oknazevad (talk) 14:38, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me - it probably pre-dates sortable tables. Akerbeltz (talk) 14:49, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Done. oknazevad (talk) 17:58, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Nice, like it, good job! Akerbeltz (talk) 17:59, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Propose standardisation of tables. Add 'Region' column to Grain whisky distilleries. Also move Arbikie distillery from Malt to Grain whisky distilleries. Though it is a smallish establishment focussed on vodka and gin, it does have one 4 YO rye whisky. Moitraanak ^(talk) 08:07, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

References

Category of Whisky

I've started a discussion about categories and status distilleries here. Ahwiv (talk) 19:13, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

• Arbikie distillery is more of a vodka and gin producer. The only Scotch whisky it produces is a 4 YO rye whisky, the Highland Rye Grain Scotch Whisky-Release 2 It needs to be shifted from the malt whisky distillery category. Moitraanak ^(talk) 07:34, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

References

Dalwhinnie Highlands not Speyside

The Dalwhinnie distillery is listed as a Speyside with a citation given that does not specifically mention that it is Speyside.

The following pages all refer to it as a Highland, and from the map it appears that the distillery is right in the heart of the highlands (note the first link is the official page):

• https://www.malts.com/en-row/distilleries/dalwhinnie/
• https://www.visitscotland.com/info/see-do/dalwhinnie-distillery-visitor-centre-whisky-shop-p418511

• https://www.whisky.com/whisky-database/distilleries/details/dalwhinnie.html

• https://www.masterofmalt.com/distilleries/dalwhinnie-whisky-distillery/

Based on those links, I am now going to change the categorization of Dalwhinnie to Highlands.

Michael Dacre (talk - contribs - email) 18:52, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Dalwhinnie is often referred to as a Highland distillery but the Speyside region which it is within is a sub region of the Highland region. Speyside distilleries can call themselves either Speyside or Highland or both. If the Speyside sub category exists on this page Dalwhinnie should be in it. Another distillery located within the Speyside region that calls itself Highland is Macallan.

• http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2009/2890/contents/made

109.150.114.16 (talk) 17:45, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Entries proposed for deletion

Delete Royal Brackla as it duplicates Brackla. They are one and the same distillery. Brackla is the name of the distillery.

Also suggest deleting Gartbreck. It is not a distillery. It is a field with a plan for a distillery Ilikescider (talk) 18:32, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Updates: Glenturret distillery

• According to an April 2019 report, Silvio Denz, owner of Châteaux Faugères in St-Emilion and Lafaurie-Peyraguey in Sauternes, bought half of Glenturret distillery via his Lalique Group. Swiss entrepreneur Hansjörg Wyss bought the other 50%. Earlier, Dec 2018 reports stated that the Swiss wine company Art & Terroir, owned by Silvio Denz had bought the initial 50%
  The Infobox of Glenturret distillery shows Lalique Group SA as the owner. The Lalique Group is certainly on Wikipedia, albeit the translatable German version. The related red warning is thus inappropriate, and should redirect to that page. There is no mention of Edrington's takeover in 1999 and subsequent sale in 2019 to Denz and Wyss.
• The article Glenturret distillery is out of date.

 Moitraanak  (talk) 12:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

References

Update References

Ref 1 in the article, "Facts and Figures" Scotch Whisky Association, has been updated by the SWA. It says: There are currently 133 operating Scotch Whisky distilleries across Scotland. The 128 figure is no longer valid. Easy edit? No, SWA contradicts itself under the same ref, saying: Scotland is home to over 130 malt and grain distilleries... So which is appropriate?

Plenty of distilleries coming up this year: Falkirk, Cabrach, Ardgowan, Jedhart, Toulvaddie. I suppose one has to wait till something concrete comes up.

Moitraanak ^(talk) 09:11, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

References

Completeness of the list of former distilleries

There were a huge number of distilleries in Scotland. Many of them have closed. It would take a lot of work to list all or most of them, but I think we should strive to do so. And it is better to mention the distilleries that existed in the past and the year they were closed, even if there is no separate Wikipedia article for them, than not to mention the fact of the existence of the distillery at all (since we generally consider it necessary to indicate closed distilleries here). It is part of the history and heritage of Scotch whisky.

I also consider it reasonable to provide links to sources of information about closed distilleries and the fact of their existence. Smoke b wiki (talk) 01:56, 22 March 2023 (UTC)